Team Pac is full if it!

[Russian Crushin]

whats up bro..... HERE is a little ammunition to what you have been saying about the 50/50 deal. If there is a 50/50 deal anywhere on that contract, I am telling you guys now that this fight will not be signed and rightfully so.


So far Floyd has kept his promise, and that is he will not give manny 50/50. Its been posted that floyd makes more money, puts more "PAYING" fans asses in teh seats as well.



Just so these fools know YESIR, HERE YA GO.

http://www.youtube.com/user/karceno2#p/u/19/mkIV681MbsM

In this video you will hear out of Floyds very own mouth that he will not give manny 50/50 and if Bob tries that **** hes really trying to kill the fight.

And he cant change his mind? And who did he "promise" it to? you, me or america

Plus its a secret, so most likely we may never know what it was

[damned1974]

Well following the other guys logic im saying Valuev ducked Klit.

But seriously? Not interested in a Klit-Valuev fight? Not over here but they are VERY interested in Europe.

Gimme a break-NOBODY is demanding Valuev even gets in the ring! The only heavyweight fight people want to see is Klitschko/Haye...not some over-sized freakshow that cant throw a meaningful punch. For the record,I would say that Valuev should have taken the first offer-he has absolutely no pull in negotiations.He doesn't even have fans! He is seriously the joke of the HW division.

[QADASHBANYAH1]

Pull what? they agreed pretty quickly

So your telling me its right for Floyd to wait for so long?

Floyd may not have a fight lined up but Pac does and he cant just keep waiting. I know he has an ego but if you cant agree to what could be the biggest fight ever 4 months in advanced, then you dont really want it.

Do you really believe that ARUM wants to have this fight?? You do know that when the truth is revealed, that you will have to eat all the words you are speaking as anyone with half a brain should know that something is wrong here.


Listen to what floyd states.....

http://www.youtube.com/user/karceno2#p/u/19/mkIV681MbsM

We will soon here that the fight is signed, or that the contract was the same as it has always been. You guys know what floyd is asking for. More money and stringent testing. If that is not on that contract, you can forget about it as floyd has already addressed this issue


Floyd has told everyone from day one that the old deal is off the table.

Why should anyone be suprised??

JUST KEEP IT REAL.

[damned1974]

Do you really believe that ARUM wants to have this fight?? You do know that when the truth is revealed, that you will have to eat all the words you are speaking as anyone with half a brain should know that something is wrong here.


Listen to what floyd states.....

http://www.youtube.com/user/karceno2#p/u/19/mkIV681MbsM

We will soon here that the fight is signed, or that the contract was the same as it has always been. You guys know what floyd is asking for. More money and stringent testing. If that is not on that contract, you can forget about it as floyd has already addressed this issue


Floyd has told everyone from day one that the old deal is off the table.

Why should anyone be suprised??

JUST KEEP IT REAL.

It wouldn't surprise me if Bob would make one more "in-house" fight to milk Manny for all he can get before he sends Manny to the front line of an ass whipping.The problem is,Manny will not do big numbers with a rematch of Cotto.It would be a waste of promotional money and people will start to catch on to Manny's paved career.

[Russian Crushin]

Do you really believe that ARUM wants to have this fight?? You do know that when the truth is revealed, that you will have to eat all the words you are speaking as anyone with half a brain should know that something is wrong here.


Listen to what floyd states.....

http://www.youtube.com/user/karceno2#p/u/19/mkIV681MbsM

We will soon here that the fight is signed, or that the contract was the same as it has always been. You guys know what floyd is asking for. More money and stringent testing. If that is not on that contract, you can forget about it as floyd has already addressed this issue


Floyd has told everyone from day one that the old deal is off the table.

Why should anyone be suprised??

JUST KEEP IT REAL.

Oh please Floyd also said he taking a year or 2 off so he cant possibly fight Pac until end of 2011 or 2012.

And why wouldnt Arum want this fight? He would make 3x as much as as any other Pac fight and even if Pac lost he would still bring in major money afterwards

[damned1974]

Oh please Floyd also said he taking a year or 2 off so he cant possibly fight Pac until end of 2011 or 2012.

And why wouldnt Arum want this fight? He would make 3x as much as as any other Pac fight and even if Pac lost he would still bring in major money afterwards

That is not entirely accurate-especially if he was to line up another "in house" fight...he would get his cut from both fighters.It makes more money for Arum if he was to promote it correctly and successfully.On the other hand though,it could blow up in his face...if he sent a bogus contract,he may have to gamble and hope that strategy pays off.

[QADASHBANYAH1]

And he cant change his mind? And who did he "promise" it to? you, me or america

Plus its a secret, so most likely we may never know what it was

WHAT YOU DONT UNDERSTAND IS THAT A MAN THAT DOES DESERVE MORE MORE THAN LIKELY WILL NOT CHANGE HIS MIND.
Most of us are not in any position like this at all.

But as you know Floyd is. His last fight sold more pay per view buys than any fight manny has EVER been in. This is a fact!

You cant go to your employer demanding anything more than likely.

Floyd has all the proof in the world that he should get the nod in monetary value in negotiations.

higher selling fights against common opponents.

Now as for your logic and reasoning, you guys have been told that PAC will have to take blood test that are actually random, not a 14 day cutoof, you heard this after he dominated mosley back in may. Dont forget so quickly my friend.

What reasons would floyd have to conceed his standpoint??

Because you fans think so?

FLOYD HAS ALREADY TOLD YOU HE IS ALWAYS IN A LOSE/LOSE SITUATION.
SO HE doesnt care what people think to that extent.

At this point PAC FANS SEEM NOT TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS NO LOGICAL reason for mayweather to say you know what, I will agree to 50/50. Maybe if there was no proof about who has the most buys etc. Manny has more fights than floyd and you can add all mannys fights up together and he still wouldnt have more buys than floyd!!!

These are facts, so I would like to hear your reasoning as to why you think floyd would change his mind, and give us something credible. What you dont understand is that MANNY is the only one that HAS BEEN CHANGING HIS MIND!!!

Floyd has conceeded only once and that was to meet pacquiao half way. Floyd was left at teh table.

What you guys dont understand is this, we are talking about human emotions here.

Imagine you are at a negotiation table trying to make a fight all to come to realize that

you have been slandered in the media, by your former employee etc.

Then while waiting to hear back from your opposition, You learn that tehy once again slander you and say YEVIVSKY doesnt want teh fight! Then a mediator comes out and tells the truth for you that they lied.... You still were blamed even though a mediator admits you were telling the truth. They lie about teh deal you tried to give them, and say they gave you that deal and you didnt want it. Then teh mediator defends you on that as well. Then the very next day you see that they already have a fight lined up!!! But supposedly they were talking to you. As CHUCK stated in teh earlier post that is once again disrespect. If mayweather doesnt sign, its not like they will have to rush to find an opponent, as the opponents will all be in HOUSE!!! And will do whatever ARUM their promoter states!

You see it took 1 day to make a fight with clottey! So it wouldnt take any longer!!!

YOU ARE A FOOL IF YOU ARE BEING FOOLED AGAIN, OR MAYBE YOU DONT THINK IT WAS TEAM PAC THAT WAS BULL****TING TEH FIRST TIME.

SO ANSWER these 2 things for me.

1.) Why would floyd change his mind? (logical explanation please)

2.) Was it manny and arum that ruined the first negotiations as the mediator stated? (if not please explain your stance logically, and why didnt manny teh stand up guy come out and say what the mediator had stated?)

PICK YOUR POISON

[Russian Crushin]

That is not entirely accurate-especially if he was to line up another "in house" fight...he would get his cut from both fighters.It makes more money for Arum if he was to promote it correctly and successfully.On the other hand though,it could blow up in his face...if he sent a bogus contract,he may have to gamble and hope that strategy pays off.

NO fight would be marginally close to making him the amount of money Floyd would and beating Floyd would boost his popularity even more.

It doesnt make sense why he would send a bogus contract, otherwise it would be shot down immediatly and GBP would be ripping the **** out out Arum. Plus he doesnt send the contract straight to Floyd, he sends it to his promoter and if its not the terms they agreed on, then theres no way it even reaches Floyd.

[Russian Crushin]

WHAT YOU DONT UNDERSTAND IS THAT A MAN THAT DOES DESERVE MORE MORE THAN LIKELY WILL NOT CHANGE HIS MIND.
Most of us are not in any position like this at all.

But as you know Floyd is. His last fight sold more pay per view buys than any fight manny has EVER been in. This is a fact!

You cant go to your employer demanding anything more than likely.

Floyd has all the proof in the world that he should get the nod in monetary value in negotiations.

higher selling fights against common opponents.

Now as for your logic and reasoning, you guys have been told that PAC will have to take blood test that are actually random, not a 14 day cutoof, you heard this after he dominated mosley back in may. Dont forget so quickly my friend.

What reasons would floyd have to conceed his standpoint??

Because you fans think so?

FLOYD HAS ALREADY TOLD YOU HE IS ALWAYS IN A LOSE/LOSE SITUATION.
SO HE doesnt care what people think to that extent.

At this point PAC FANS SEEM NOT TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS NO LOGICAL reason for mayweather to say you know what, I will agree to 50/50. Maybe if there was no proof about who has the most buys etc. Manny has more fights than floyd and you can add all mannys fights up together and he still wouldnt have more buys than floyd!!!

These are facts, so I would like to hear your reasoning as to why you think floyd would change his mind, and give us something credible. What you dont understand is that MANNY is the only one that HAS BEEN CHANGING HIS MIND!!!

Floyd has conceeded only once and that was to meet pacquiao half way. Floyd was left at teh table.

What you guys dont understand is this, we are talking about human emotions here.

Imagine you are at a negotiation table trying to make a fight all to come to realize that

you have been slandered in the media, by your former employee etc.

Then while waiting to hear back from your opposition, You learn that tehy once again slander you and say YEVIVSKY doesnt want teh fight! Then a mediator comes out and tells the truth for you that they lied.... You still were blamed even though a mediator admits you were telling the truth. They lie about teh deal you tried to give them, and say they gave you that deal and you didnt want it. Then teh mediator defends you on that as well. Then the very next day you see that they already have a fight lined up!!! But supposedly they were talking to you. As CHUCK stated in teh earlier post that is once again disrespect. If mayweather doesnt sign, its not like they will have to rush to find an opponent, as the opponents will all be in HOUSE!!! And will do whatever ARUM their promoter states!

You see it took 1 day to make a fight with clottey! So it wouldnt take any longer!!!

YOU ARE A FOOL IF YOU ARE BEING FOOLED AGAIN, OR MAYBE YOU DONT THINK IT WAS TEAM PAC THAT WAS BULL****TING TEH FIRST TIME.

SO ANSWER these 2 things for me.

1.) Why would floyd change his mind? (logical explanation please)

2.) Was it manny and arum that ruined the first negotiations as the mediator stated? (if not please explain your stance logically, and why didnt manny teh stand up guy come out and say what the mediator had stated?)

PICK YOUR POISON

Please tell me exactly what the mediator said

[QADASHBANYAH1]

Oh please Floyd also said he taking a year or 2 off so he cant possibly fight Pac until end of 2011 or 2012.

And why wouldnt Arum want this fight? He would make 3x as much as as any other Pac fight and even if Pac lost he would still bring in major money afterwards

Oh please Floyd also said he taking a year or 2 off so he cant possibly fight Pac until end of 2011 or 2012.

LOL, yeah because floyd would announce his retirement on a youtube video at a make-a-wish foundation benefit.

No he wouldnt announce it on ESPN ETC. On a youtube video that most people havent even seen!!! lol, Even his father and uncle have told you Floyd plans to fight manny. His whole plan was to come out of retirement and fight Manny and the best at 147. He tuned up against marquez which was a statement to team pac. His very next fight was supposed to be between himself and manny pacquiao! This lends credit to what I am saying. Manny stalled so he fought shane, still in the welterweight division remember.

So now hes back at the table with manny again! And the man ARUM that has been lying since day one , is lying again! Why would arum change? Hes always been a liar.

And why wouldnt Arum want this fight? He would make 3x as much as as any other Pac fight and even if Pac lost he would still bring in major money afterwards

You dont seem to be very bright, but you do know that he could actually make more money off of manny fighting in house bums than mayweather, it would simply just take more fights.

COTTO VS MANNY 2 wouldnt sell what it did teh first time, but nontheless, he would make good money off it, remember he gets 27 %.

He also not only gets 27%, but he would have a fighter with an 8th title, further boosting pacquiaos status. Boosted status. means boosted money get it? more publicity jimmy kimmel, letterman etc.



margarito vs manny would sell only if they can get the fight in america. This is more likely after a cotto rematch as the fight would have to be in 2011 anyway.

He could still go back to 140 as well. there are at least 3 fights he could make there, and no one would criticize him either. (you fans are simple remember)

so there goes 5 fights right there. Not what diehards would want to see but 5 fights nontheless. Hell what about berto?? thats 6 fights right there! Hell even if he fought MARQUEZ THAT WOULD DO GOOD NUMBERS.

ITS CALLED RIDING THE GRAVY TRAIN IDIOT.