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  • Rolaz
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    #111
    In Boxing business, there's a Boxer, a Manager, a Promoter, a Trainer, a Conditioner, etc...

    A Boxer can't be doing all those Position!

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    • Boxingholic
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      #112
      Originally posted by IMDAZED
      What if you can sign that "backup deal" at any time because they are under contract with you?
      The second deal is easier to sign for. The point is to make money within that specific time frame. The first one will make more money for sure, but not guaranteed. So second deal is better than not making any money at all.

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      • Russian Crushin
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        #113
        Originally posted by Boxingholic
        If your an investor that is guaranteed to make money in 6 months. The first client seems not interested on the deal, you dont hear a word from him since your offer a contract to lock a multi million dollar deal. Would you wait and hope for that client to sign the deal? Although the time is ticking and a multi million dollar deal might not happen? or you can sign a back up deal just incase first one falls through so you can still make money within that specific time frame of 6 months?
        Think about that for a sec. It will enlightened you.
        Not only that but he has to hold up both Marg and Cotto incase Floyd says no. And they arent making him money by just sitting around. Hes being prepared for a no. If he wasnt, then Marg and Cotto would be lined up for a fight and then Floyd says no and Pac has a Nov 13 date but no opponent

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        • IMDAZED
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          #114
          Originally posted by Boxingholic
          The second deal is easier to sign for. The point is to make money within that specific time frame. The first one will make more money for sure, but not guaranteed. So second deal is better than not making any money at all.
          No, the point is to make money PERIOD. The second deal will always be there and can be made within the bat of an eye. It can be made next week. Two weeks from now. Three. Think about that for a sec. It will enlighten you.

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          • IMDAZED
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            #115
            Originally posted by yevskiy426
            Not only that but he has to hold up both Marg and Cotto incase Floyd says no. And they arent making him money by just sitting around. Hes being prepared for a no. If he wasnt, then Marg and Cotto would be lined up for a fight and then Floyd says no and Pac has a Nov 13 date but no opponent
            What do you mean he has to hold them up? Where are they going?

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            • QADASHBANYAH1
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              #116
              Originally posted by yevskiy426
              Dude stop coming up with conspiracy theories and follow whats happening.

              Arum does the negotiations and if he says they are over, they are over. i mean its just such a ****** thing to lie about.

              Arum said the only thing not agreed upon is the date and thats what will drown the fight.

              PLus a contract is drawn up AFTER the negotiations are done.

              I just dont understand how people think he sent a bad contract. If he did Floyd will tell the whole world and prove its Arums Fault for why the fights not made.

              I dont understand how people can blame Arum when GBP and Floyd should be saying something right NOW themsleves
              COVENIENTLY YOU DUCKED MY RESPONSE ON WHAT MEDIATOR STATED.


              EITHER ARUM LIED OR PAC LIED AS PAC STATED HE DIDNT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT A 14 DAY CUT OFF.

              BUT ARUM STATED HE HAD PROOF THAT HE KNEW ABOUT IT SINCE JANUARY 1 OR PRIOR BECAUSE in the same link I gave you arum stated it was an old offer, how in the hell can an offer made january 1, be old january 4th??

              NOW THAT **** IS CRAZY!!!

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              THIS IS WHY THE MEDIATOR CAME OUT AND STATED ARUM WAS LYING.

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              A day after their fight was declared dead, Floyd Mayweather Jr. said Thursday night that he still wants to fight Manny Pacquiao.



              The mediation was largely about coming up with a suitable time frame in which to cut off the testing before the fight. Pacquiao moved off his hard-line stance of no testing inside 30 days from the fight by agreeing to 24 days during mediation.

              "We agreed to move the drug testing to 24 days under the supervision of the Nevada commission and Mayweather still wouldn't budge," Michael Koncz, Pacquiao's adviser, told ESPN.com from the Philippines on Wednesday night after the fight was declared dead.

              The Pacquiao camp blamed Mayweather for his unwillingness to move off his desire for random testing until the fight.

              Mayweather disputed that on Thursday.

              "Before the mediation, my team proposed a 14-day, no blood testing window leading up to the fight. But it was rejected," Mayweather said. "I am still proposing the 14-day window but he is still unwilling to agree to it, even though this is obviously a fair compromise on my part as I wanted the testing to be up until the fight and he wanted a 30 day cutoff. The truth is he just doesn't want to take the tests.

              "In my opinion it is Manny Pacquiao and his team who are denying the people a chance to see the biggest fight ever. I know the people will see through their smoke screens and lies. I am ready to fight and sign the contract. Manny needs to stop making his excuses, step up and fight."

              YOU CANT RUN NOW, I TOLD YOU TO PICK YOUR POISON.


              WE NOW KNOW THAT MANNY ACCORDING TO ARUM DID KNOW ABOUT THE 14 DAYS SUGGESTION, AND THAT MANNY REJECTED IT!

              SO WHY IS MICHAEL KONCZ TALKING ABOUT FLOYD NOT BUDGING??

              PACQUIAO, KONCZ, OR ARUM IS LYING, PICK YOUR POISON AND SHUT UP.

              YOU ARE RELYING ON EVERY WORD THAT ARUM STATES... SO YOU ARE LEFT WITH PACQUIAO OR KONCZ LYING, AND IF KONCZ IS LYING THEN SO IS PACQUIAO AS PACQUIAO KNEW ABOUT EVERYTHING.


              AS FLOYD STATED..... "I know the people will see through their smoke screens and lies."

              Yet many months later you dont that makes you a biased *******.

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              • Russian Crushin
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                #117
                Originally posted by IMDAZED
                Why would it be only a month?
                I think negtotiates broke down around Jan 20th and the fight was March 13 so that already less then 2 months time. And i doubt they would sign it anytime close to jan 20 since they were still worlds apart

                Cmon you and me both know Pac needed a fighter since it was less then 2 months till the fight

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                • damned1974
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by ADP02
                  What I am saying is that Arum has had previous experience where Floyd has walked out of the negotiations and left Arum holding the ball. Example, Margo. ....

                  As for the guys you mentioned, Arum never experienced what he experienced with Floyd .... and if he did then it may have been different. Still, look at Cotto for example. He went out to visit Cotto recently and had a verbal agreement, from the looks of it. ..... still, if that is Plan B, he still has Plan C even though Arum can trust Cotto.

                  It's a business ....
                  I wouldn't say Floyd and Margarito was a negotiation...
                  As for Oscar, Hatton, and Cotto- those fights were declared on and off multiple times.I didn't see a plan "B" with them-did you?????

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                  • IMDAZED
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by yevskiy426
                    I think negtotiates broke down around Jan 20th and the fight was March 13 so that already less then 2 months time. And i doubt they would sign it anytime close to jan 20 since they were still worlds apart

                    Cmon you and me both know Pac needed a fighter since it was less then 2 months till the fight
                    Yeah well he has until November this time.

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                    • ADP02
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED
                      Arum has had even more experience where he walked out of negotiations himself. Arum has more experience lowballing a fighter. LOL @ "Arum can trust Cotto". Arum doesn't have to trust anything, Cotto just nods his head. When Cotto was in a position to leave Top Rank, Bob was so nice, wasn't he? Went out and got Miguel the biggest fight he could get, didn't he? If only Miguel remained on board. Contrast that with Mayweather's situation at Top Ranka nd what transpired.

                      It is what it is ..... I was stating why Arum got his Plan B, C and D ..... you just never know. .....

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