Comments Thread For: If Everything is Settled, Blame Mayweather For Fight Bust

[badecisioncotto]

LMAO they dont have one he's been floored and sells less, he deserves nothing more than 35-40% lower if this ****sucker really thinks he aint gonna test like a normal human being.

I really wanted to hear the dudes argument but oh well. I think the biggest thing about the split with the fans is that they r conditioned to think 50-50 is fair...mathematically yes when u splitting an orange in half, but not the same with business.

In a perfect world the public shouldnt even know the talking points on a contract but if people r going to use the media this is the type of hold up u get. No 1's egos would be damaged if the contract wasnt publicly known.

[spoonwars]

weren't u just quoting Arum the other day? lmao
whenever it benefits you his word is trustable but when it doesn't, it isn't.
hypocrit.

he eats taco bell like mayweather sr, not knowing why he's sick at the same time

[spoonwars]

I really wanted to hear the dudes argument but oh well. I think the biggest thing about the split with the fans is that they r conditioned to think 50-50 is fair...mathematically yes when u splitting an orange in half, but not the same with business.

In a perfect world the public shouldnt even know the talking points on a contract but if people r going to use the media this is the type of hold up u get. No 1's egos would be damaged if the contract wasnt publicly known.

what business does mayweather have if he doesn't fight pac... charity?

[Tamis!]

I really wanted to hear the dudes argument but oh well. I think the biggest thing about the split with the fans is that they r conditioned to think 50-50 is fair...mathematically yes when u splitting an orange in half, but not the same with business.

In a perfect world the public shouldnt even know the talking points on a contract but if people r going to use the media this is the type of hold up u get. No 1's egos would be damaged if the contract wasnt publicly known.

Like I said mate, none of those matter now.

Yeah it's a business, but ain't that Floyd's foremost acumen? Easy fight, easy payday, didn't he said that?

Wether Floyd deserves bigger coz he has the bigger PPV numbers or wether Pacquiao has the bigger fanbase outside US, none of those matter!

Both need each other to generate the biggest and richest fight in history, and that IMO is what makes 50/50 reasonable for most fans who don't ride Floyd's **** 24/7.

[flint]

everything is not settled. mayweather took the old deal off the table before the mosley fight and stated that pacquiao needs to step up his ppv game. there's no way floyd accepts that garbage contract that toprank just sent over. 50-50 is out the window. move on punkass pacquiao

[Tamis!]

everything is not settled. mayweather took the old deal off the table before the mosley fight and stated that pacquiao needs to step up his ppv game. there's no way floyd accepts that garbage contract that toprank just sent over. 50-50 is out the window. move on punkass pacquiao

LOL! Move on punkass Pacquiao???

There you have it folks! A stan who want none of Pac against Floyd!

[The Ninth Layer]

can i hear your argument on y pac should get a 60-40 split?

Sure. Manny Pacquiao has a reputation of delivering fast-paced action fights against any opponent. He can sell fights on his own name alone, as he proved with Clottey (unless you think 51,000 people went to Cowboy Stadium to watch the "Grandmaster"). You'd have to go back to Baldomir to find a fight Floyd sold on his own (325,000 PPV buys) because every other fight he's had since then featured a strong B-side fighter with him. Stated simply, Pacquiao does not need to fight a strong opponent or even an opponent with a big fanbase to sell tickets and pay-per-views, because he is an exciting enough fighter on his own that people will want to see him fight anyway.

Mayweather is not that kind of fighter. He needs someone either with a large fanbase (Marquez, De La Hoya) that can get riled up for their man to beat him, or he needs a competitive fight on paper (Mosley) to convince the general boxing fan that it will be a competitive fight. Mayweather-De La Hoya was successful on both fronts which is why it did so well, and certainly a great deal of the buys can be attributed to Mayweather's ability to hype a fight. But it's still true that Mayweather would not be able to sell tickets without these big-name fighters against him. Again, could Mayweather sell 700,000 PPV buys against Josh Clottey last March? I doubt it. Could Pacquiao sell 1.4 million against Mosley last May? I'd think it would be pretty close.

Finally Pacquiao brings the casual boxing fan to the table. Floyd is a master boxer and ring technician but he's no Mike Tyson and he takes very few risks in the ring. Manny is a quick guy with pop and power who can actually draw people into the sport and make them fans with his gung-ho fighting style. You could drum up interest in this Mayweather fight just by showing old Manny clips to people that have never seen the sport before. Mayweather's exciting in his own way, but not to the uninformed masses who don't watch the sport regularly when the heavyweight division is dead.

If I was arguing for a Pacquiao 60-40 split, I would end this by saying that Mayweather has nowhere else to go, he's stuck fighting Pacquiao unless he wants to go up in weight or fight Tim Bradley or something. I could write a similar post for you detailing what I would expect a 60-40 for Mayweather to look like. Frankly though I feel the purse split should be 50-50. Neither fighter has proven conclusively that they are the bigger PPV draw, or that they are the better fighter and deserve the split, or whatever. And it's irrelevant anyway because no boxing fan is buying this fight because they want to see only one of these fighters, so there's no reason for one to get more money over the other.

[pasawayako]

if floyd will just keep quiet and don't say anything about this he will be the one to be blame if this fight will not be made, i mean how the hell he can still be quiet if he knew that those statement of arum are all lies he should come out and at least say that arum was lying and there are no on going negotiaotion that is happening or say that he don't agree on the money split or drug test that's why there's no fight, so that the public will know what makes stopping him to sign the fight.

[The Ninth Layer]

I really wanted to hear the dudes argument but oh well. I think the biggest thing about the split with the fans is that they r conditioned to think 50-50 is fair...mathematically yes when u splitting an orange in half, but not the same with business.

In a perfect world the public shouldnt even know the talking points on a contract but if people r going to use the media this is the type of hold up u get. No 1's egos would be damaged if the contract wasnt publicly known.

I'm curious but do you think past PPV buys are going to have any effect on the ticket sales of this fight? Do you think one fighter or the other is going to be the driving force in ticket sales? I think 50-50 is a very fair split because they are each going to sell one-half of every ticket.

[Ray*]

I dont mind Mayweather's silence because he alway is until a fight has been signed and sealed but i would like someone to call GBP and ask for their side of the story, But that's if GBP are willing to talk.