Comments Thread For: If Everything is Settled, Blame Mayweather For Fight Bust

[BritishBoxing92]

By Lyle Fitzsimmons - Contrary to some folks’ belief, I don’t have a direct line to Floyd Mayweather Jr.

We don’t hang out together. I’m not on the promotional payroll.

Nor am I expecting Christmas cards this season from either Michigan or Vegas.

But if I really did have the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world’s ear, I can promise you one thing. I’d have a very simple message for him today.

And it’d go something like this:

“Floyd,” to borrow a phrase my mom used to use, “it’s time to **** or get off the pot.”

Admittedly, each time I heard Alice Fitzsimmons use those words, they were directed at the back of a car moving at what she viewed as less-than-optimal speed for the lane it was driving.

More often than not, it didn’t work. But somehow, it helped.

In this case, I don’t figure the end result will be much different.

I don’t pretend for a moment that Floyd or a member of his crew will read this and suddenly exclaim, “You know, that Lyle guy has got it right. Get Bob Arum on the phone. It’s time to sign a contract.”

It probably won’t happen. But it certainly should.

Because in this one sector of the gag-free speculation committee, each day that passes without an official thumbs-up from Arum, Richard Schaefer or the fighters themselves makes it less likely the thing happens at all – this year, next year or ever.

If what’s been reported is true and Mayweather’s sign-off is really the lone remaining obstacle, a time will soon come for Arum and Pacquiao to throw up their hands, say “we tried our best” and move on to more-willing quarry wandering the welterweight/junior middleweight plains. [Click Here To Read More]

of course....i mean who else can we now blame since pac has been clean since day one and has accepted the 14 day deal??? mayweather sr is coming up with all kind of crap now saying that "he accepted now because he wanted the steroids to clear out of his system" and mayweather jrs now claiming "its an expired deal...i want more money"

[decipher]

shame how a pro writer is going to take such a stance on a subject in which he knows no info on.

first- we cannot believe what is said from team pac when a mediator has proven that they been lying about these negotiations for months

second- pac didnt even sign the contract he supposedly sent, y? do you not expect the contract to be take serious?

third- and most important...WE DONT KNOW WHATS IN THE CONTRACT

fourth- given the fact that team pac puts eveything out there in the media if they decided to take the tests with 0 days they would have ran and told the media

fifth if they really wanted the fight why disrespect floyd by negotiating publicly with marg and cotto

i can go on and on but it is really falling on death ears...

boxingscene has become very polarized when it comes to this issue, either you are a pac fan and you are biased for him or you are a floyd fan and defend floyd..very few are in between, thus, what is writen on these forums will be filtered depending on where you fall in those categories.

[PAKYO]

Pac wouldn't get out of bed for less than $20 million at this point. Doesn't fight for money my ass. Oh, and Arum definitely doesn't want Pac to lose. This is a huge money train for him. If Pac loses to Mayweather, Pac's claim to be one of the great modern era fighters is significantly diminished. Boxing fans throw fighters to the curb pretty quick when they lose. And a fighter like Pac, like all huge fighters, have a huge bandwagon following that's ready to jump to the next name. Arum will milk Pac against as many opponents as he can before he'll really want to risk a big loss.

I'd like to add that's how every promoter operates in this sport. Milk a fighter as much as you can before you move on.

I believe "you don't know **** about boxing", to borrow the *****s favourite phrase here.

It doesn't matter anymore if Pac losses because he's on his last league of the journey and there's only 1 fight left on him after that he'll be concentrating as a politician in his country.

So what else is there to follow if Pac losses, no one really cares if Pac losses it's only the *****s here who wanted Pac to lose badly as they're afraid their false idol is really a fraud.

The only fact i know is that the Mayweathers and their camp is afraid of the Pac exposing the fraudness of their floyd. That would mean....goodbye big money. Back to being a hobo you go.

[The Ninth Layer]

I really don't get how you guys can like boxing and yet be a fan of only one of these two excellent fighters.

[HandSpeed303]

Pay-per-view discussion numbers get you nowhere, it's a pointless discussion. I could make arguments either way for why one fighter deserves the 60-40 split over the other. Comparing recent PPV fights is also pointless because we're talking apples to oranges when we compare a fight like Pacquiao-Clottey (an uncompetitive match-up on paper against a notoriously unentertaining and relatively unheralded fighter) to Mayweather-Mosley (a big step up for the undefeated Floyd against the always entertaining, likable and well-known Mosley). If you don't agree with me, just try imagining how different the PPV numbers for these fights might have been had it been Mayweather-Clottey or Pacquiao-Mosley. My gut tells me they'd probably be pretty similar (and maybe lower for both fights).

When we're talking about Floyd and Manny fighting, we are not talking about the individual fighters themselves drawing a crowd; we are talking about the match-up itself selling tickets. Every boxing fan is going to be watching this fight. Does it really matter who has the biggest drawing power when every boxing fan in the world is going to be paying attention to the fight? I don't think it does, and I don't think past PPV buys will speak at all to the selling ability of this fight. 50/50 is a fair split in my mind.

Let's hope this fight goes through, if not by November then at least for May.

Good post brotha!

I feel the same way about the split. I think it should be 50/50 also...


On A Side Note: This article has some Floyd fans losing it...One thing that stood out about the article I do agree with, no matter what Floyd said a few months ago, it might be time to remind folks where you stand...Of course Floyd's robot fans will remember, and take note of everything he says, but there is nothing wrong with restating your position on the fight (0 cut off/bigger split)....If that is the case.

[SuperTrooper]

I find it hilarious how some Floyd fans in here care more about Floyd making the bigger split instead of taking the 50/50 and getting the fight signed. And they call themselves boxing fans

[Malius]

Everyone gave **** for Haye being silent when Kilt's called him out. But mayweather being silent is ok??

What happens if Pacman doesn't want to wait any longer and finds another fight, then Flyod comes out and talk **** again? Will people jump of his band wagon. For me personally Flyod needs this fight more than Manny, but thats just me.

Having no comment is worse than having an incorrect one. Cos at least people know where you stand.

[GOD-FR33]

Who are you?????

How about having some class by introducing yourself before typing comments like "****-rider" on your keypad. I'm not here to argue with anyone. If you make a good point, I'll give credit where credit is due. You need to relax HOMIE. I can be ****** as well but without all the name calling. MAYWEATHER or MANNY doesn't deserve a bigger split. It should be 50/50 simply because they are two world class fighters who the world wants to see fight. If you want to base it on opposition, we all know who would get the bigger split then. DON'T WE? Anywho, I can tell you are a MAYWEATHER fan and a bogus one based on how you greeted me without knowing anything about me. I'm not a BOGUS fan nore am I an idiot. I call it like I see it. I know it hurts you FLOYD fans but he doesn't fight the best and he never will. FLOYD has way more to prove than MANNY at this stage because MANNY has fought basically everyone he needed to past and present to build his case of bravery and legend. Have you ever seen MAYWEATHER bleed in the ring? Have to face adversity in order to win? Not hardly my man so go back into your PRO-MAYWEATHER THREADS because us REAL FANS aren't buying it over here. It's a shame that a smaller fighter had to move up to the most talented division in boxing and fight all the guys your so called 60/40 fighter couldn't or wouldn't. WONDER WHY THAT IS!

[GOD-FR33]

Good post!

Hey man. It's GOD-FR33 here. GOOD POST. I'LL give you green in a sec. cHECK OUT WHAT THIS DUDE NAMED "red_menace" just sent me........"really mr d*ck rider? pac dont fight for money? why not accept 60/40 when floyd clearly deserves it?

he fights the biggerst baddest? fight paul williams whom is knockin on his door as we type? but nah instead he wants the biggest challenge he can get from a shot fighter whom he already beat in cotto...

ya kill me..."

GET HIM! This guy is an idiot who doesn't know boxing! I just responded back with class. Check out my post on the topic and see who you agree more with.

[GOD-FR33]

good post......

Hey man. GOD-FR33 here from MKE. GOOD POST! aCheck out mines.

"How about having some class by introducing yourself before typing comments like "****-rider" on your keypad. I'm not here to argue with anyone. If you make a good point, I'll give credit where credit is due. You need to relax HOMIE. I can be ****** as well but without all the name calling. MAYWEATHER or MANNY doesn't deserve a bigger split. It should be 50/50 simply because they are two world class fighters who the world wants to see fight. If you want to base it on opposition, we all know who would get the bigger split then. DON'T WE? Anywho, I can tell you are a MAYWEATHER fan and a bogus one based on how you greeted me without knowing anything about me. I'm not a BOGUS fan nore am I an idiot. I call it like I see it. I know it hurts you FLOYD fans but he doesn't fight the best and he never will. FLOYD has way more to prove than MANNY at this stage because MANNY has fought basically everyone he needed to past and present to build his case of bravery and legend. Have you ever seen MAYWEATHER bleed in the ring? Have to face adversity in order to win? Not hardly my man so go back into your PRO-MAYWEATHER THREADS because us REAL FANS aren't buying it over here. It's a shame that a smaller fighter had to move up to the most talented division in boxing and fight all the guys your so called 60/40 fighter couldn't or wouldn't. WONDER WHY THAT IS!"
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