Comments Thread For: Roger Mayweather's Trial May Sideline Pacquiao Fight?

[IMDAZED]

You made a blanket assertion based on specific comments, without mentioning them "specifically" and now I'm guilty of not doing my homework? Gotcha makes sense now.

Please show me where. You're talking nonsense now.

[edgarg]

More complete fighter? Yes. More right hands and more combination punching. In which fight did Oscar fight better? The first fight with Mosley or the second? He clearly lost the first one as far as I'm concerned. And in case you forgot, Mayweather sr is the one that groomed Mayweather jr into what he became. Starting at a very young age. Roger didn't completely take over until after Mayweather was already a world champ. So you're contradicting yourself with this argument.

Oscar fought far better in the first Mosley fight than the second. The reason that the 2nd Mosley fight was close -which the 1st was not, regardless of the phoney Split D- was because of Mosley, who didn't fight with a real plan, and allowed Oscar to get a big lead on him.

However Mosley then began to target Oscar's body, with sickening punches, and scored a narrow but deserved UD. I was even sorry for Oscar during that fight because every time Mosley's righ fist thudded into Oscar's body he winced, and kept bending over lower and lower, to try to protect hiself. Oscar has always been weak in the body which was the reason for his "chest" protector fitting so that it kept inching upwards.

Mosley hit on the body attack just at the right time.

[Check_hooks]

floyd sr - crack
roger - women beater
floyd jr - lydocane and women beater

Manny "Pacman" Pacquiao - Congressmen of a Country, #1 ranked p4p king, Fighter of the Decade, Only boxer EVER to win 7 world titles in 7 differend weight classes

Pacquio is gonna fight Cotto at 154 to win 8 world titles in 8 different weight classes and will retire #1 p4p all time aka GOAT

[jrosales13]

Arum just cutting BOY some SLACK!!!

Eres de Panama? Hablas Espanol? Si hablas Espanol... Que son estos comentarios de "boy"? A mi ni me gusta Floyd pero esos commentarios son racista y no quiero leer esa mierda de racismo. Yo soy centro americano como tu. Y como the digo I mi no me gusta Floyd no soy un fan. Yo soy fan de Pacquiao. Pero yo odio racistas y commentario de racismo... So vete a otro lado con esa mierda.

And, if I misspelled some of those words my bad. I am not real good in writing in Spanish.

[jaskieee]

The sense of comfort of having his uncle training him maybe.

If I want to see Pac and May fight I want to see them at their best, with their preferred trainers.

I think the comfort issue is a big thing, all though i also belive that Roger is a very capable trainer. Maybe Jessie Vargas' progress will be able to provide a better gauge of his ability as a trainer.

I gained a lot of respect for Roger in the Mosley fight. After the second round when things were looking not so good for Mayweather and I, as a Mayweather fan, was extremely nervous, Roger simply repeated "you beat him easy when you box him" and continued to act as if nothing had gone wrong. Meanwhile Ellerbe looked as if he had just seen a ghost and Garcia had something to do for the first time in his partnership with Floyd.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDQID8gkwcU

Fast forward to 3:05

Sorry I couldnt find a video on the tube with audio but you will get the picture, mainly posted it just for Ellerbe's facials =]

[IMDAZED]

I think the comfort issue is a big thing, all though i also belive that Roger is a very capable trainer. Maybe Jessie Vargas' progress will be able to provide a better gauge of his ability as a trainer.

I gained a lot of respect for Roger in the Mosley fight. After the second round when things were looking not so good for Mayweather and I, as a Mayweather fan, was extremely nervous, Roger simply repeated "you beat him easy when you box him" and continued to act as if nothing had gone wrong. Meanwhile Ellerbe looked as if he had just seen a ghost and Garcia had something to do for the first time in his partnership with Floyd.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDQID8gkwcU

Fast forward to 3:05

Sorry I couldnt find a video on the tube with audio but you will get the picture, mainly posted it just for Ellerbe's facials =]

Roger is excellent in the corner. Really is. The first time it jumped out was the Judah fight. He is patient, loud when he needs to be, allows his fighter time to catch his breath and is very lucid (surprisingly) in giving instructions.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

I responded point by point. And your feelings are hurt. Sorry.

no you didnt. sorry. i laid out a lot of criteria why sr. is not a great trainer & you respond with that's just one criteria & he has the support of his peers. You never stated your reasons why sr. is a great trainer.


why do older users have this sense of smugness about them?

[switchsouthpaw]

He trained Floyd Jr from birth and brought him to his first world title. The questions are getting sillier.

As is your consistent lack of context when citing your own examples. Floyd was preternaturally gifted, as a teenager he possessed physical gifts that went unmatched with respect to his peers.

His father taught him to box and gets credit for that, chances are high that he would have been great with any coach, based on his god given abilities. As Floyd as has stated repeatedly, some fighters are taught/coached to become great fighters, but what he possesses is god-given, these are his own words not mine, his own words support my contention.

[jbpanama]

If Oscar was a finished product, who did the job? Oscar changed trainers every two fights. Yet he worked with Floyd Sr for five years and says he's the best trainer he ever had and the best boxing mind he's ever worked with. And he said this long before Floyd Jr helped bring him the dough.

Oscar also liked BOY SR's RAP, and PR PROWESS!!

[IMDAZED]

no you didnt. sorry. i laid out a lot of criteria why sr. is not a great trainer & you respond with that's just one criteria & he has the support of his peers. You never stated your reasons why sr. is a great trainer.


why do older users have this sense of smugness about them?

I resoinded point by point. Sorry it bothered you. You'll get over it.