why is mannys resume so overated and floyds so underated???

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  • V.WEBB
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    #41
    Originally posted by T.I.
    Larry, you seriously made this? Floyds best win an aging, over the hill, overtrained mosley? Then a weight drained/about to do a bid.. Corrales.. I honestly don't think much of Floyds resume, it ain't coming close to Mannys. But I still believe Floyds an ATG and one of the best in our era along with Manny. But be real man..
    Overtrained huh? Floyd had NOTHING to do with how he looked huh? And Chico being "weight drained" and about to "do a bid" is Floyd's fault?

    Carry on.

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      #42
      Originally posted by CungLe
      You put MOSLEY on number 1.

      And COTTO killed MOSLEY.

      And PACQUIAO s best win is not even against COTTO.


      7 time division belts


      I mean whats wrong with you kid?

      Did you heard that Pacquiao just won FOTD in Floyd s country?
      You made a bet with Larry to be gone FOREVER. Man up to it.

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        #43
        Floyd is def not getting the respect for taking Hatton's ''O'' and beating a strong DLH. I rate Floyds win in those fights over what Pac did. Yes I know Pac did it in a more dominating fashion but we can't forget that Oscar was severely dehydrated and Hatton hadn't recovered fully from losing his ''O'' and went into fights head strong trying to prove he still had it.

        Pacmans destruction over fighters like Clottey and Cotto can't be denied though.

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          #44
          floyd's second or arguably best win is vs an inactive 39 year old who did'nt have nothing but 2 rounds...that says it all!

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            #45
            Originally posted by COACH-WEBB
            Overtrained huh? Floyd had NOTHING to do with how he looked huh? And Chico being "weight drained" and about to "do a bid" is Floyd's fault?

            Carry on.
            I give credit to Floyd for those awesome performances. Just calling it like it is.

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              #46
              Originally posted by T.I.
              I give credit to Floyd for those awesome performances. Just calling it like it is.
              Where did you get that Shane was "overtrained" from?

              Was Chico weight drained when he fought Angel Manfredy before he fought Mayweather?

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                #47
                Originally posted by baracuda
                floyd's second or arguably best win is vs an inactive 39 year old who did'nt have nothing but 2 rounds...that says it all!
                Mosley gassing out after 2 rounds is a myth IMO

                Floyd made him look like he was gassed out

                But.. Mosley was 38

                A win over a 38 year old opponent shouldnt be your BEST win

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                  #48
                  floyd's 3 best wins are against 2 borderline hall of famers & a 39 year old 1 year 5 month inactive future hall of famer.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Grand Champ
                    Floyd is def not getting the respect for taking Hatton's ''O'' and beating a strong DLH. I rate Floyds win in those fights over what Pac did. Yes I know Pac did it in a more dominating fashion but we can't forget that Oscar was severely dehydrated and Hatton hadn't recovered fully from losing his ''O'' and went into fights head strong trying to prove he still had it.

                    Pacmans destruction over fighters like Clottey and Cotto can't be denied though.
                    I honestly think Pac and Floyd's win over Ricky are about even. It really comes down to what you think is better; taking his 0 or beating him at the weight he was undefeated and dominate at. If some feel taking the 0 is better I can respect that, but again IMO I feel its about preference.

                    As far as the Oscar fight, I alway felt Oscar was done even before he fought B-hop, so I have a hard time giving either a ton of credit for beating him. They both get credit, but nothing to brag about.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by COACH-WEBB
                      Where did you get that Shane was "overtrained" from?

                      Was Chico weight drained when he fought Angel Manfredy before he fought Mayweather?
                      Like I said, just calling it like I see it.

                      Mosley was gassing after the 2nd round. He looked like he was twitching and ****. I remember watching that fight thinking he was having an asthma attack. He was tight the whole fight..

                      I know Chico was weight drained for the Floyd fight..

                      Floyd/Diego - Corrales was weight-drained, sick, had to do a bid after the fight. Got beat. (Floyd would have beat the guy anyways, but this didn't help Corrales)

                      In the months leading up to the Mayweather fight, Corrales also found out his IBF 130-pound title had been abdicated by managers--and conveniently given to another fighter in their stable.

                      “I had a real-estate company at the time in Phoenix. Next thing I know, one of my friends comes on the computer and says, ‘You vacated your belt?’” said Corrales. At that time, he was having difficulty getting his weight down. “I’m starting to read this article about me giving up my title. And I felt like I didn’t have the opportunity to give up my belt. It was my right to give that up.”

                      Corrales sued his managers and settled in arbitration for an undisclosed sum. It was another distraction he didn’t need.

                      But Corrales didn’t care about any of that; he simply wanted to fight Mayweather and resolve their bitter rivalry in the ring. It was time to settle affairs with a man who’d taunted him endlessly about his personal problems with his wife and virtually everything else, too. Corrales is not quick to exchange verbal barbs; he bided his time, seething as Floyd milked every public appearance with a mounting tide of threats, insults and goading. Finally, Corrales succumbed, and the bad blood was flowing freely in both directions. With combined black and Hispanic fan bases, the bout was a natural headliner to kick off HBO’s 2001 broadcast schedule.

                      For Corrales, it meant making the dreaded 130-pound limit one last time; one final episode of long days with only a g****fruit to eat, of jogging in rubber suits and of endless steam baths to get down to the limit. One more time, and he’d be off to the 135-pound lightweights and living fat, never having to take off those terrible final pounds again.

                      He walked up to the scale, and the fight was, in a sense, lost right there. For all his efforts in the steam bath that morning, shedding 8 pounds, he was still 132--two pounds overweight. He went back and ****** the 2 pounds off in time for the weigh-in. A day later, his body both starved and waterlogged from his ensuing rehydration, he entered the ring--146 pounds at fight time--and the results were a disaster.

                      “I didn’t really realize ’til the third or fourth round that everything was going bad,” said Corrales. “And I was cramping up. … My legs started cramping real good, and I’m going, ‘What’s the deal here?’”

                      The blood feud had gotten the best of Corrales, his fury clouding years of training and technique. After being picked apart in a surgical manner, Corrales was floored three times in the seventh. He kept pressing, and Mayweather kept hitting him. Finally, in the 10th round, after the fifth knockdown, his stepfather waved the bout off and saved him from moot punishment.

                      “What the hell are you doing?” screamed Corrales. Woods, mindful of his stepson’s pride, shook his head--mute, yet resolute. Chico would take no more.

                      “I would rather fell out dead in that ring than let that fight pass me by like it did,” Corrales said. “I don’t think I talked to my dad for two weeks after that. I couldn’t bring myself to talk to him about it. When it came up, I told him, ‘Hey, I felt what you did was wrong. But it’s water under the bridge.’”

                      Soon after the Mayweather defeat, Corrales returned to an even more disastrous personal life. After looking at the police report and the charges before him--and recognizing that a conviction could land him several more years--Corrales figured his best option was a plea bargain.

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