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  • Originally posted by Williamb45 View Post
    the only thing that interests me is pac winning
    a title in his 8th division. But if they fight at a catchweight then fack this fight and fack pac and his team. I'd be rooting for cotto if they pulled this ****.
    And you'd be sorely dissapointed when Cotto gets his face battered again.

    Seriously though, what worse? Fighting a guy at a catchweight, or at a completely different weight? For example, what if Pac demanded that Cotto came down to 140 in their first fight, is that worse than fighting at a catchweight at welterweight? You gotta get your **** straight. Catchweight is just a little obstacle mind game that guys use, it doesn't really affect a fighter that much. Also, Cotto has stated multiple times that the catchweight wasn't an issue. Forcing a guy to move up from 130 to 147 is BS, and you know who did it.

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    • Here we go again....MANNY PACQUIAO, the P4"catchweight''P KING...

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      • Originally posted by qwerty07 View Post
        And you'd be sorely dissapointed when Cotto gets his face battered again.

        Seriously though, what worse? Fighting a guy at a catchweight, or at a completely different weight? For example, what if Pac demanded that Cotto came down to 140 in their first fight, is that worse than fighting at a catchweight at welterweight? You gotta get your **** straight. Catchweight is just a little obstacle mind game that guys use, it doesn't really affect a fighter that much. Also, Cotto has stated multiple times that the catchweight wasn't an issue. Forcing a guy to move up from 130 to 147 is BS, and you know who did it.
        I'm more of a fan of Pac than Cotto (even though i'm a fan of him too). I gave him a pass for the first cotto fight, but if he wants to fight him again for the 154 title, he better do it AT 154.

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        • Why would he not like the idea? He beat Cotto's ass bad. And things will be worse next time because boxers typically show a decline as years go by.

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          • Originally posted by jetgeomcx View Post
            team pac didn't want yuri primarily because of the big discrepancy in height and reach.
            with cotto, it will be just the weight.
            but then, pac should fyt cotto at the super welter limit.
            pac will be at ~149 during fytnyt......as always.
            cotto is more sluggish at 154, could be 162 at fytnyt.
            ....and so he myt opt to come lighter.
            I understand if you look at it that way but, just dig a littel deeper. He is willing to fight Margarito? It's not the height to me that's the concern. Yuri is not a big puncher but, he is a very capable boxer with a lot of movement. Pac has trouble with guys that opt to box. I dont care what fan boys say Pac doesn't have anything to trouble Yuri with because of his movement.

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            • Catchweight at 150lbs...and what if Pacquiao did not reach that weight?. will he pay 600K for every pound that he's short?.

              I think this is the next best fight for Pacquiao if the Mayweather negotiation fail.

              At least Cotto got a chance to beat him at this division.Although I think this is only a ruse so that Mayweather don't have to dilly dally and sign that freakin contract already.

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              • Originally posted by fabie View Post
                What is appalling is hearing why you guys complain of CATCHWEIGHT fights. This has been going on for a long time. CATCHWEIGHTS are mutual agreements within the range of the weight level.

                For one thing Manny Pacquiao has to do many things just to maintain his weight level and that meant it isn't his natural weight. When we went up 7 weight divisions, his weight is being "forced" to go up with it in his natural walking weight but it isn't natural.

                Perfect example is his regiments and training that he needs to eat 5 meals a day just to hold the weight. His height and weight isn't a natural and there's nothing for him to concquer below the welterweight division.

                His height and weight is already being "pushed" to the max to balance between strength and speed while "operating" comfortably. His accomplishments and while being the champion is a natural attraction and the much sought fighter around.

                When he is no longer as potent or as a champion, obviously nobody would want to fight him. Can we all discount or rob him of this opportunity? Of course not.

                While he and his team is calling forth for a catchweight fight, again, it is a MUTUAL AGREEMENT. The opponent doesn't have to agree to fight him. Not only it is perfectly legal but a norm to be able to "balance" any kind of advantage based on height and weight. (and reach).
                Nah, catch-weight fight's are bull****.

                A catch-weight fight rates slightly above an exhibition match.

                Boxing is about weight divisions.

                If a contract includes a stipulation that a fighter must come in at a weight lower than the maximum divisional limit..... then the smaller fighter is conceding that he simply does not belong in that weight class.

                Which makes the first Cotto fight look funny in hindsight, considering Manny is the current P4P #1.

                If you fight for a JMW title, the divisional limit for JMW is 154.

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                • Originally posted by fabie View Post
                  In my opinion, I don't claim to know everything....but 2 to 3 pounds will not make much of a difference. I simply don't know.

                  If Cotto and Pac fought for 150, do you think it will much of a difference? Maybe.

                  But the thing about weights in boxing is that it isn't a true science. We can't be too objective. But one factor is that Pacquiao with a much smaller frame, height and coming from the lower weights - he does have more leverage in asking for a catchweight requirement while being THE fighter that everybody wants to fight.

                  REMATCH will settle differences (somewhat) I think but the way Pacquiao has dismantled DLH and COTTO, do you think it will make a difference again? Maybe but all points seemed to point to NO.
                  No.

                  1 pound, can make a big difference..... if it is the last pound.

                  I do not believe that Cotto was drained in that fight.

                  EVERYONE has the right to assume that Cotto was drained, because of the catch-weight.... and they will.

                  A catch-weight was unnecessary then, and it is unnecessary now.

                  As far as I'm concerned, Manny will still be a 6-division titlist if he beats Cotto at a catch-weight again.

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                  • Originally posted by MurderDeathKill View Post
                    If Cotto wants revenge and Pac wants another division title, fine. But this catchweight madness is bull****. Cotto should know better than to accept it a second time, and Pac's team should know better than to ask for it. If Pac or Margarito don't happen for Pac at 147 and Cotto don't rematch Margarito himself, this fight is ok. But all those options should be secondary for both guys. Understandable if Cotto wants to get even, but I still don't see how he'll be able to win against Pac.
                    What a very, very, good post.

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                    • Originally posted by Williamb45 View Post
                      the only thing that interests me is pac winning
                      a title in his 8th division. But if they fight at a catchweight then fack this fight and fack pac and his team. I'd be rooting for cotto if they pulled this ****.
                      How many paper titles can one man pick up? In this age of watered down belts, who cares about an "eighth title?" Some of you guys just lap anything up. Was David Diaz the real champ at 135? Since when did Ricky Hatton's IBO belt become something to be taken seriously? And now Miguel Cotto at 154? Cripes.

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