2 Quality Posts from one of our best posters on the latest from Arum

[THE REED]

I just can't see how Arum, Roach and any PAc fan can justify Pac deserves 50-50. They did JMM wrong in terms of pay, and Floyd knows this. 60-40 is a bit much but 55-45 is about right when you look at their ppv numbers...

With Floyds PPV stats compared to Pac, you can definitely put together a proof plan that Floyd deserves a higher percentage.

Me personally?


It should be 50-50.

You are talking about the two absolute best fighters in the world.. in the same weight class... both look just about unbeatable... and they are also the #1 and #2 highest grossing fighters in the sport as well.

It takes two to tango, and you can't make the biggest fight in the history of the sport without the other...

[The Big Dunn]

Great posts from E and I can understand what he means. I questioned how the negotiations could be done if they were yet waiting on Floyd to "ok" everything.

Bob seems intent on "winning" the battle for the mainstream media. His plan seems to be if we can make floyd look like a ducker and a chicken its better for us. That obviously hasn't worked yet Bob sticks to it.

[V.WEBB]

As far as I'm concerned nobody knows the details of the contract that was sent to Floyd. Arum is a lying sack of **** and like to manipulate the media. I wonder what happened to the gag order

This has raised a red flag for me as well. I've been asking the same thing. Only one side has actually obeyed the gag order (aside from Oscar's comment).

[THE REED]

How so? I don't know why you think I'm being defense, I'm simply raising a few questions and points that some people are overlooking.

there are really two ways to look at this - you can be optimistic or you can be skeptical. There is no right or wrong way. I'm simply optimistic based on various things that have came out over the past few weeks.

With Arum... I think you can be both.

I can be optimistic about his confident remarks in him wanting to make the fight... I can be skeptical about "we sent Floyd our final offer, the balls in his court".

I think you can be both.

Tell me you can't be skeptical with Bob Arum?

[ИATAS]

Great posts from E and I can understand what he means. I questioned how the negotiations could be done if they were yet waiting on Floyd to "ok" everything.

well from my understanding Golden Boy represents Floyd. Golden Boy negotiates with Top rank. Once they agree on terms the proposal is then finally sent off to floyd for his final approval/signature.

This of course is up to debate since GBP hasn't released any official response but that's how it would have gone down.

[treason1]

everyone is quick to pat chickenweather & golden girl protions on the back for being "QUIET" during the nogotiation but i couldve sworn i saw that transvestite oscar on a porto rican tv channel bragging about the fight being done!!!! last week & then just yesterday kfc was on mtv with his crack dealling friend 50 cent talking about the fight . and disparaging the congress mans name . is that a courtmarshable offense to diss a congressman? anyway both sides have spokedn to the media any unbiased fan can see that but onluy one side manny seems to get the blame WHY???? ill tell you why because of a underlying racism.

[The Big Dunn]

With Floyds PPV stats compared to Pac, you can definitely put together a proof plan that Floyd deserves a higher percentage.

Me personally?


It should be 50-50.

You are talking about the two absolute best fighters in the world.. in the same weight class... both look just about unbeatable... and they are also the #1 and #2 highest grossing fighters in the sport as well.

It takes two to tango, and you can't make the biggest fight in the history of the sport without the other...

Respectfully, you are asking floyd to make a bad business deal given the tangible variables that relate to purse split. Manny would almost quadruaple his guarantee from his last fight while floyd would almost double his. Would you do that if you were floyd?

[THE REED]

everyone is quick to pat chickenweather & golden girl protions on the back for being "QUIET" during the nogotiation but i couldve sworn i saw that transvestite oscar on a porto rican tv channel bragging about the fight being done!!!! last week & then just yesterday kfc was on mtv with his crack dealling friend 50 cent talking about the fight . and disparaging the congress mans name . is that a courtmarshable offense to diss a congressman? anyway both sides have spokedn to the media any unbiased fan can see that but onluy one side manny seems to get the blame WHY???? ill tell you why because of a underlying racism.

First of all he's a congressman in a different country... so .... no.

Even if they were in the same country..... no.

And nobody is bashing Pacquiao here... we are talking about Bob Arum.

I am unsure if you know his history as a promoter?

Respectfully, you are asking floyd to make a bad business deal given the tangible variables that relate to purse split. Manny would almost quadruaple his guarantee from his last fight while floyd would almost double his. Would you do that if you were floyd?

I understand and I agree.... like I said, I would agree that you can put together a solid proof argument based on numbers that Floyd deserves the bigger percentage.

But I was talking about my personal opinion, the fight should be 50-50.

[ИATAS]

With Arum... I think you can be both.

I can be optimistic about his confident remarks in him wanting to make the fight... I can be skeptical about "we sent Floyd our final offer, the balls in his court".

I think you can be both.

Tell me you can't be skeptical with Bob Arum?

I think it's best to be skeptical with ALL promoters, not just arum. I've yet come across a 100% honest, straight shooter of a promoter, lol they just don't exist. They all have their angles, agendas, etc. for obvious reasons.

If this was just Arum saying this and there had been nothing positive reported in the past, I would be much more skeptical than I am now. But like I said there have been quite a few things over the past few weeks that support arums claim.

[The Big Dunn]

First of all he's a congressman in a different country... so .... no.

Even if they were in the same country..... no.

And nobody is bashing Pacquiao here... we are talking about Bob Arum.

I am unsure if you know his history as a promoter?



I understand and I agree.... like I said, I would agree that you can put together a solid proof argument based on numbers that Floyd deserves the bigger percentage.

But I was talking about my personal opinion, the fight should be 50-50.

Fair point fair opinion. I guess I just question when I see a 50/50 split. I can't see anyone on this board, if they were in floyd's position, agreeing to that. Not just because of the numbers. But floyd is gonna have to do the bulk of the promoting given the language barrier and pac's committments at home. 50/50 is patently unfair.