Comments Thread For: Dawson vs Bute is The Plan; Perez-Agbeko Part 2 Ordered

[Hitman932]

As much as I'd like to see Bute square off against one of the elimateés from the supersix I'm pretty sure that wont happen:

1: Bute wont risk it. Of course he would fight Green but if he has 2 losses in the s6 HBO will not buy it.

2: HBO will not make such a match simply because it will mean free PR for Showtimes supersix and showcasing one of those eliminated would prove that the best fighters are on the rival network.

Great points Bat, especially the 2nd one.

Bute will obviously be happy to fight Green, but nobody wants to see that.

[savorduhflavor]

Of course Bute will risk it, that's total crap. What 168 lb fight did Bute duck Bat? I don't want to hear the tourney.

Why does it have to be on HBO?

HBO announcers are CLAMORING for Bute V winner of SUper 6, why not make it a setup fight?

Because that's where the money is. It's really that simple.

Bute would be ****** to spurn HBO and go back to Showtime.

HBO is where fighters aspire to be. It's like the Major Leagues.

[Walt Liquor]

They get something. But look. Showtime Championship Boxing's budget starts at like 400k.

HBO World Championship boxing budget starts at around 2 million.

That's a huge difference.

To the fighters, guaranteed network money is more valuable than gate revenue. So having an automatic WCB date attached to your name is a big deal.

And HBO WCB boxing money + Belle Centre Revenue is big money.

That's all I'm saying.

But you aren't taking into account the risk of fighting a bigger, faster, better boxer. Who would do that in Bute's position? Please name me one fighter out there right now that would do what ya'll are dogging him.

[BattlingNelson]

Of course Bute will risk it, that's total crap. What 168 lb fight did Bute duck Bat? I don't want to hear the tourney.

Why does it have to be on HBO?

HBO announcers are CLAMORING for Bute V winner of SUper 6, why not make it a setup fight?

I'm not implying Bute ducking anybody, but I'm saying that it isn't worth the risk. If he looses he can kiss a megapayday against the S6 winner goodbye. That's why I'm saying that Bute will fight the guys who has the perfect style for Bute to destroy.

I'm in a bit of a disadvantage as I cannot see HBO. Are you saying that the HBO commentators are suggesting that Bute should fight an eliminated supersix fighter?

[BattlingNelson]

Great points Bat, especially the 2nd one.

Bute will obviously be happy to fight Green, but nobody wants to see that.

Thanks.

Maybe HBO wont see it, but I would think that 25K screaming canadiens would love it.

[Hitman932]

Of course Bute will risk it, that's total crap. What 168 lb fight did Bute duck Bat? I don't want to hear the tourney.

Why does it have to be on HBO?

HBO announcers are CLAMORING for Bute V winner of SUper 6, why not make it a setup fight?

Bute's career is well on it's way to being just like Calzaghe's. Nobody can really say Calzaghe outright ducked anyone but it's also obvious that he could have done more, taken some chances, and never did. He got content fighting at home against guys he could easily beat and that is exactly the pattern that Bute has fallen into.

Bute is not going to leave Canada to fight the Super 6 winner. I would bet the shirt off my back on that.

The Super 6 winner doesn't need Lucian Bute when he is done, it's that simple. They will already be recognized as one of the very best fighters in the sport. Why would they need to travel to prove themselves against some guy who has never beaten a world class opponent?

[Hitman932]

I'm in a bit of a disadvantage as I cannot see HBO. Are you saying that the HBO commentators are suggesting that Bute should fight an eliminated supersix fighter?

I don't think it is realistic to expect Dirrell- Bute is Dirrell is knocked out of the Super 6. Some people seem to think it is a foregone conclusion that Bute will fight one of the guys that drops out and I don't think that is very likely.

Gary Shaw can be a real ****head sometime but he does genuinely care about his fighters and he knows that Andre Dirrell is a damn good fighter, with great potential and he isn't going to sell him out to Bute for a payday right after coming off a loss that could be potentially devastating to not only his career but also his mental state.

If Dirrell loses to Ward Shaw will take the time to build Dirrell back up to being a confident fighter and then make a move. He isn't going to whore him out to HBO for a payday against a guy like Bute. Shaw doesn't have enough good fighters in his stable to ruin Andre Dirrell.

[Walt Liquor]

Bute's career is well on it's way to being just like Calzaghe's. Nobody can really say Calzaghe outright ducked anyone but it's also obvious that he could have done more, taken some chances, and never did. He got content fighting at home against guys he could easily beat and that is exactly the pattern that Bute has fallen into.

Bute is not going to leave Canada to fight the Super 6 winner. I would bet the shirt off my back on that.

The Super 6 winner doesn't need Lucian Bute when he is done, it's that simple. They will already be recognized as one of the very best fighters in the sport. Why would they need to travel to prove themselves against some guy who has never beaten a Ae world class opponent?

because every hbo bute fight, they talk about bute fighting the winner of the super 6. Did you hear max last fight vs Miranda. All night with the ward/bute comparisons. ALL Night!!! Bute beat Miranda more decisively etc, but fighter not in the tourney etc. They want that fight. Why risk it fightig a Better fighter.

Again. Who has bute ducked? Ward fought Miranda. The only good win on wards resume is kessler so far. Miranda beat green. You're coming across as a hater.


Bat, you and I are saying the same thing. It's a dumb move by bute and he's getting hated on unnecessarily. No boxer would do it in their right mind.

[King Koopa]

f-THAT...Dawson shouldn't have to move down to 168, let Bute move up to him if he wants to fight

Otherwise Dawson can focus on Pascall, and potentially Cloud next, if he wins...a third fight with Johnson would be pointless
Chris Henry would be good too
Zsolt Erdei...who am I kidding, dude wants NO parts of a fight outside of Germany
Same goes for Braehmer, I wouldn't even factor them into the equation

Bernard Hopkins should have been secured a fight with Dawson......but he's scared too

After 2-3 fights, move up to Cruiserweight

[Walt Liquor]

I'm not implying Bute ducking anybody, but I'm saying that it isn't worth the risk. If he looses he can kiss a megapayday against the S6 winner goodbye. That's why I'm saying that Bute will fight the guys who has the perfect style for Bute to destroy.

I'm in a bit of a disadvantage as I cannot see HBO. Are you saying that the HBO commentators are suggesting that Bute should fight an eliminated supersix fighter?

Hbo commentators want bute v the winner no doubt. That fight will get made or someone will officially be a duck. It's a natural.

One of the losers would be a credible 168 lb fight for btw since there are none left. And when I say the losers I am not including green as I've mentioned already about 4 times. Either dirrell, froch, kess or Abe. All are excellent fights vs bute.

Bute has fought who he can. Hitman thinks he's a duck but won't tell me who he's ducked besides Dawson which makes no sense for bute unless it's at 168.