There is NOTHING wrong with Floyd facing Martinez at a catch weight.

[Pullcounter]

technically, pullcounter is right, Manny didn't ask for 145, but Bob made cotto fight at 145.

bob didn't make cotto do nothing. 145 is cotto's number.

The real question is why didn't pac fight for the 147 lb WBO champioship at 147 lbs.

cause he weighed in at 138 lbs against hatton?

[The Big Dunn]

yup, and 7 lbs higher than pac's last fight before the cotto fight. remember, pac weighed in at 138 lbs against hatton.

you are correct. the point I am making fight the 147 lb champ at 147 lbs for the 147 lb title. Plug in any number in place of 147. any other way, no matter if its floyd, manny, hagler, duran, ali, willie pep, jack johnson, or my ****ing johnson, I think its pu$$y for the "draw" to force the champ to fight at a lower weight.

[The Big Dunn]

Of course because hes Floyd Mayweather and according to you, he can do no wrong...

If floyd does it he is just as pu$$y as anyone else IMO.

[Calilloyd]

Will you criticize Floyd for making JMM fight @ 144 (and originally wanting it at 147)


Was JMM's belt on the line? and yes Mayweather should have made the contracted weight.


Will you criticize Floyd for making Hatton fight at 147?

Or is it "different" when it comes to Floyd? Am I about to see fight nights weights and all that jazz because its "different" when it comes to Floyd?

Why should I? It was for the welterweight championship. And Hatton won a title at 147 from Collazo with no catch weight. So why would he get one with Mayweather? Is Mayweather any bigger than Collazo? Please explain how that compares to Cotto forced to defend his belt 2 pounds under the limit? So what's your point other than your usual Mayweather agenda? So yeah it is "different".

[2501]

I know you arent pointing this at me but I did openly criticize Floyd for making a lightweight come to welter to fight THEN ignoring the catchweight



well this would hold water if Hatton didn't openly admit to wanting to campaign at 147 then have a fight there to boot


I agree I think the true fans and the ones who only see things that benefit have just separated their selves

in the end having any champ be restricted and then fight for their title is wrong

it was wrong when Oscar did it to BHop
it was wrong when Manny did it to Cotto

and it would be wrong if Mayweather did it to Martinez

regardless of how comfortable anyone thinks Martinez is at making 154

Cotto said the weight wasn't a problem for him so where is the issue? If Floyd fighting Hatton was ok because Hatton said the weight wasn't a problem, then why was Cotto/Pac an issue even though Cotto said it was ok?

[Pullcounter]

you are correct. the point I am making fight the 147 lb champ at 147 lbs for the 147 lb title. Plug in any number in place of 147. any other way, no matter if its floyd, manny, hagler, duran, ali, willie pep, jack johnson, or my ****ing johnson, I think its pu$$y for the "draw" to force the champ to fight at a lower weight.

WW is anything under 147 lbs.

you can weigh 147 lbs and I can weigh 106 lbs and if I whup your ass, I'd still be the WW champ.

[The Big Dunn]

bob didn't make cotto do nothing. 145 is cotto's number.


cause he weighed in at 138 lbs against hatton?

Of course Bob did. he told cotto he couldn't get him that much money unless they fought at 145 or manny wouldn't fight. so cotto took it. Not manny's fault!

If you fight for the ww title do it at the ww weight limit! If you cant make it fight at another weight.

[BoxerDood]

If its at 154, of course it better be at the weight limit. I'd only be okay with the catchweight if its at Middleweight, because of course I don't expect a WW to move up two weight classes out of nowhere.

But if Pac-Cotto II or Floyd-Martinez were below 154, I'd disagree with both fights.

[Calilloyd]

WW is anything under 147 lbs.

you can weigh 147 lbs and I can weigh 106 lbs and if I whup your ass, I'd still be the WW champ.

The limit is 147. Not anything under it.

[The Big Dunn]

WW is anything under 147 lbs.

you can weigh 147 lbs and I can weigh 106 lbs and if I whup your ass, I'd still be the WW champ.

Stop with the semantics. The weight max is 147 for ww. let both fighters come in at any weight under in a championship fight.