There is NOTHING wrong with Floyd facing Martinez at a catch weight.

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  • The Big Dunn
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    #61
    Originally posted by 2501
    Will you criticize Floyd for making JMM fight @ 144 (and originally wanting it at 147)

    Will you criticize Floyd for making Hatton fight at 147?

    Or is it "different" when it comes to Floyd? Am I about to see fight nights weights and all that jazz because its "different" when it comes to Floyd?
    In championship fights! If you make a catchweight and there is not title fine. But when you are the bigger draw and trying to win a champioship above your weight class, don't make the champ fight at a catchweight!

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    • Eaner0919
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      #62
      Originally posted by 2501
      Will you criticize Floyd for making JMM fight @ 144 (and originally wanting it at 147)
      I know you arent pointing this at me but I did openly criticize Floyd for making a lightweight come to welter to fight THEN ignoring the catchweight

      Will you criticize Floyd for making Hatton fight at 147?
      well this would hold water if Hatton didn't openly admit to wanting to campaign at 147 then have a fight there to boot

      Or is it "different" when it comes to Floyd? Am I about to see fight nights weights and all that jazz because its "different" when it comes to Floyd?
      I agree I think the true fans and the ones who only see things that benefit have just separated their selves

      in the end having any champ be restricted and then fight for their title is wrong

      it was wrong when Oscar did it to BHop
      it was wrong when Manny did it to Cotto

      and it would be wrong if Mayweather did it to Martinez

      regardless of how comfortable anyone thinks Martinez is at making 154

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      • Pullcounter
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        #63
        Originally posted by Eaner0919
        for the title?

        no 100% wrong
        that was a negotation tactic. cotto just wanted more money for the title.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Pullcounter
          pac wanted the catchweight, but 145 was cotto's number, not pac's
          Not for the title. You're wrong.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Calilloyd
            Who wanted the catchweight? Pacquaio or Cotto? You're trying to make it seem like this was for Cotto's benefit. If Cotto had his way it would have been at 147. So no, 145 was not HIS number.
            technically, pullcounter is right, Manny didn't ask for 145, but Bob made cotto fight at 145. The real question is why didn't pac fight for the 147 lb WBO champioship at 147 lbs.

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            • Pullcounter
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              #66
              Originally posted by Big Dunn
              But 3 lbs south of the tune up before pac.
              yup, and 7 lbs higher than pac's last fight before the cotto fight. remember, pac weighed in at 138 lbs against hatton.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Eaner0919
                I know you arent pointing this at me but I did openly criticize Floyd for making a lightweight come to welter to fight THEN ignoring the catchweight



                well this would hold water if Hatton didn't openly admit to wanting to campaign at 147 then have a fight there to boot


                I agree I think the true fans and the ones who only see things that benefit have just separated their selves

                in the end having any champ be restricted and then fight for their title is wrong

                it was wrong when Oscar did it to BHop
                it was wrong when Manny did it to Cotto

                and it would be wrong if Mayweather did it to Martinez

                regardless of how comfortable anyone thinks Martinez is at making 154
                in the end having any champ be restricted and then fight for their title is wrong. it was wrong when Oscar did it to BHop, it was wrong when Manny did it to Cotto,and it would be wrong if Mayweather did it to Martinez, regardless of how comfortable anyone thinks Martinez is at making 154

                Simple. Easy to understand!

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                  #68
                  Of course because hes Floyd Mayweather and according to you, he can do no wrong...

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                  • Pullcounter
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Calilloyd
                    Not for the title. You're wrong.
                    that was just a negotiation tactic to get more money.

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                    • Tha_Greatest
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by No Ceilings
                      You're right Cali.

                      But Martinez kind of waived that right and left it in Floyds hands to decide.
                      if floyd thinks that martinez waived that right, martinez can easily just tell floyd the fight aint happening cause the fight isnt signed, every fighter changes their mind during negotiations and that means martinez will not be plan b for floyd if floyd thinks martinez cant negotiate on the right to stay at 160(no way did he wave the right to fight at 160, my opinion

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