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  • pistol whip
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    #81
    Originally posted by No Ceilings
    I understand Pac is boxing savior but come on. The point you make is valid Clottey just lost to the guy Pac ****d.

    He lost a very close fight to a two division champion whos spent time on the to 10 PFP list. It's not like clottey was brutally Knocked Out in the first round.

    Oh but bradley's gigantic and momentous wins over the living legend and future Hall of famer Junior Witter and the immortal all time great Kendell holt now that makes him ready to fight the #1 fighter in the world.


    It's always black and white with you people.

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    • Calilloyd
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      #82
      Originally posted by BillyBoxing
      Hmmmm yeah Burnhugger.

      Clottey lost a SD to Cotto,beat Judah to pulp,almost beat Margarito.

      I know,Clottey is mister "almost",lol,but Clottey would beat any fighter Bradley has beaten.Imagine just a minute if Peterson or Holt jump to 147 and fight Joshua....
      That's it,they get destroyed.

      Bradley is fightin at 140,and hell,the opposition he faced is way overrated.

      Clottey lost fights,but Margo,Cotto,Judah,Pacquiao over Peterson,Witter,Holt,Campbell P4P wise any day.

      And we are talkin about 147 big guys in Margo and Clottey's case.

      I think Clottey beat Bradley at 147,but I might be wrong.

      Not so slick Bradley would do better than Clottey against Manny with his speed and style,unlike Josh he could win some rounds but would get stopped by Manny straight left hands.
      And you base that on what? His losses? That really makes a lot of sense lol. And why don't you explain in detail how Bradley's opposition has been "overrated?" Can you do that? Didn't think so.
      Last edited by Calilloyd; 06-24-2010, 01:09 PM.

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      • Hotbox2
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        #83
        Originally posted by CharliesRecords
        Damn these promoters fight more than their fighters...
        I don't particularly care for Shaw but he is right about that. Arum is trying to keep Pacroid away from any of the upcoming fighters because he's afraid Pacroid will get beat before he can make that big money against a Floyd. He's trying to milk Pacroid as much as he can but the well is running dry..Pacroid will have major problems because he can run but can't hide

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        • el rey
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          #84
          Originally posted by yevskiy426
          Clottey was the #1 contender at WW, so how can you jump on him? If he fought Bradley, he would have gotten so much **** for fighting a JW, Kind of like the crap Khan gets for wanting to fight Katsidas or Marquez.
          **** he was the WBO's #1 number contender while Bradley is not only the the Ring number one 140 lbs but dont forget that Pacquiao also still is the 140 lbs Ring champ (yeah he's told the Ring Magazine that he doesn't wanna vacate cause supposedly he might defend it), so it would actually make sense for the number one guy to fight against the R.M. champ instead of a guy who won a world championship against a shot Judah and couldn't pull off the kill against a one eyed Cotto.

          Originally posted by pistol whip
          You are forgetting one thing. Clottey is a ***ing former welterweight Champion. Who the *** is bradley in the WW division? Bradley maybe undefeted but so is Julio Ceasar Chavez jr and we arn't clammerring for that guy to fight Pac are we? Clottey has been in the ring with world champions and PFP top 10 fighters thats what makes him a suitable fighter for pac. Bradley's resume is littered with ole timers and never ammount to **** contenders. There is a giant diffrence in world class experience between Clottey and Bradley. Thats why Clottey in my eyes is a much better choice.
          Again, fcking world welter champ against a shot Judah who he didnt even wanna defend the title. Bradley's the number one dude at JWW that totally outclassed a guy who held all the physical advantages, yeah Clottey's been in the ring with world champs AND LOST! dude couldnt beat marg, pac, cotto, and got his dumass DQ'ed against Baldomir. Maybe Clottey has faced better opposition but he proved that he couldn't pull the trigger against the top echelon of the sport and I must give you props for defending a guy that would show up to a supposedly 51,000 packed arena, just to collect a paycheck ala Johnson-Klit, Clotteys a fcking joke and you have to admit that at least after what you saw in March.
          Last edited by el rey; 06-24-2010, 01:08 PM. Reason: J IN THE WW

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          • Calilloyd
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            #85
            Originally posted by yevskiy426
            DLH was a big favorite and because of that deserved a shot a pac WAY more then Bradley does




            I'm talking about NOW. Present tense. Does Delahoya deserve a shot at Pacquaio more than Bradley based on his history? Yes or No?

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            • Russian Crushin
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              #86
              Originally posted by Calilloyd
              And what does that have to do with the current events? The Clottey fight was almost 4 months ago. Try to keep up. And Bradley has been willing to fight any of the top fighters (including Mayweather) for a long time now. whaere have you been?
              Lets all be real, the only reason 95% of you think Bradley should fight Pac is because Pac has just fought a non attraction in Clottey.

              For some reason Bradley is more deserving then before the Clottey fight even though Bradley hasnt fought since Dec 09.

              Stop saying that since Pac already fought a no name that another no name deserves a shot

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              • THE REED
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                #87
                Originally posted by pistol whip
                He lost a very close fight to a two division champion whos spent time on the to 10 PFP list. It's not like clottey was brutally Knocked Out in the first round.

                Oh but bradley's gigantic and momentous wins over the living legend and future Hall of famer Junior Witter and the immortal all time great Kendell holt now that makes him ready to fight the #1 fighter in the world.


                It's always black and white with you people.
                He's lost every single big fight he has ever been in.

                What is Clotteys biggest win?

                He's never beaten ANYONE besides Zab Judah.... and coming off a loss entitles you to a fight more than the #1 fighter and champion at 140?

                Pac holds the ring belt at 140..........

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                • pistol whip
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                  He fought Junior Witter.. the WBC JR. WW Champion... and he fought him IN the UK.

                  He fought Kendall Holt.. former Jr. WW CHampion.

                  He fought Nate Campbell.. former LW champion.

                  :

                  Compared to Antonio Margarito and Miguel Cotto they are ***ing club fighters. Those two Names alone have been in the Top 10 PFP rankings at one point in time in their careers. When have Junior Witter, Nate Campbell, and Kendell Holt even sniffed the top 30 ever in their careers?

                  Remember we are talking Manny Pacman the "best" world class fighter in the world. he's more than just the 140 pound champion and to be honest i don't think Bradley is any more qualifed to fight pac than any of the top 140 Pounders.

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                  • Russian Crushin
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Calilloyd
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                    I'm talking about NOW. Present tense. Does Delahoya deserve a shot at Pacquaio more than Bradley based on his history? Yes or No?
                    No a retired fighter doesnt deserve a shot at Pac

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by pistol whip
                      Compared to Antonio Margarito and Miguel Cotto they are ***ing club fighters. Those two Names alone have been in the Top 10 PFP rankings at one point in time in their careers. When have Junior Witter, Nate Campbell, and Kendell Holt even sniffed the top 30 ever in their careers?
                      Who gives a **** about a mythical p4p list?

                      We are talking about world class champions in their weight class.

                      Which Holt, Campbell, and Witter all have been.

                      And here's the kicker... Bradley actually won those fights.

                      AND HE LOST, to Margarito and Cotto.... so what's even the point?

                      Because he lost to them he gets credit?

                      Remember we are talking Manny Pacman the "best" world class fighter in the world. he's more than just the 140 pound champion and to be honest i don't think Bradley is any more qualifed to fight pac than any of the top 140 Pounders.
                      What I am talking about the RING 140lb champion Pacquiao fighting the #1 140lb champion Bradley being more relevant than Clottey coming off a loss and his biggest WIN is Zab Judah.

                      Stop listing Clotteys losses as his resume, it's killing your argument.

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