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  • The Big Dunn
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    #181
    Pistol:

    Marg isn't controversial he is a cheater. Floyd is controversial. He says and does things that make people mad as hell yet he backs it up with talent. Many think Marg cheated vs cotto and before then and just got caught by Brother ****m.

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    • pistol whip
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      #182
      Originally posted by reedickyaluss
      Top 10?

      No they weren't just top 10.

      They are active champions.

      Junior Witter was the #1 ranked Jr WW and the WBC Champion.

      Bradley beat him in his own country.


      Kendall Holt was the WBO Jr WW Champion and fought Bradley in a unification fight.

      Lamont Peterson was the #1 ranked contender to Bradleys belt and also a top 5 ranked Jr WW at the time.



      WINS over these fighters, coupled with being the #1 fighter in the division... along with being an undefeated champion in that weight class constitutes every right to fight Pac when compared to Clottey... who has done nothing but LOSE to the competition he has faced... coupled with coming off a loss in his very previous fight. He has the same right as Clottey, if not moreso. Moreso IMO.
      And thats exacly were the disconnect on your part comes in. Were they good in that division? Yes! but any fool can see that there is a huge disparity in "talent" when going from fighting Lamont ***ing Peterson to fighting Pacman. Especially when there are 4 or 5 other contenders that if bradley fought and beat would make him without a doubt a suitable opponent for Pac. But you just wanna skip over all that and send him straight to the big fight. Unfortunatley for you and Timmy it doesn't quite work that way unless of course you live in Bizarro. I mean that might be hard for you and the dozens of Bradley fans out there to grasp but thats how the real world works.

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        #183
        Originally posted by Big Dunn
        Manny made 13.5 mil last fight (before ppv). I'm thinkin if the networks offer him $15 mil (assuming no may pac fight) he almost has to take it. Depending on his performance and ratings he could become a bigger draw.
        Pac's guarantee against Clottey was $7.5 million, not 13.5 million. I don't know where you got that figure from, unless you are quoting Bob Arum, who told everyone that Pac would make at least 13 million for fighting Clottey (which turned out to be an exaggeration). The networks are not interested in boxing at all and they definitely wouldn't pay $15 million for a fight.

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        • pistol whip
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          #184
          Originally posted by Big Dunn
          Pistol:

          Marg isn't controversial he is a cheater. Floyd is controversial. He says and does things that make people mad as hell yet he backs it up with talent. Many think Marg cheated vs cotto and before then and just got caught by Brother ****m.
          Whatever you wanna call it it still sells.

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            #185
            Originally posted by pistol whip
            And thats exacly were the disconnect on your part comes in. Were they good in that division? Yes! but any fool can see that there is a huge disparity in "talent" when going from fighting Lamont ***ing Peterson to fighting Pacman. Especially when there are 4 or 5 other contenders that if bradley fought and beat would make him without a doubt a suitable opponent for Pac. But you just wanna skip over all that and send him straight to the big fight. Unfortunatley for you and Timmy it doesn't quite work that way unless of course you live in Bizarro. I mean that might be hard for you and the dozens of Bradley fans out there to grasp but thats how the real world works.
            After 18 pages, we will have to agree to disagree.

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            • pistol whip
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              #186
              Originally posted by big_james10
              Pac's guarantee against Clottey was $7.5 million, not 13.5 million. I don't know where you got that figure from, unless you are quoting Bob Arum, who told everyone that Pac would make at least 13 million for fighting Clottey (which turned out to be an exaggeration). The networks are not interested in boxing at all and they definitely wouldn't pay $15 million for a fight.
              Check out the Top Rank insider here! Tell me what color socks Arum has on right now?

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              • B.U.R.N.E.R
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                #187
                2 Questions:


                Who has the better wins Clottey or Bradley?

                Who is the better fighter Clottey or Braley?

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                  #188
                  Originally posted by big_james10
                  Pac's guarantee against Clottey was $7.5 million, not 13.5 million. I don't know where you got that figure from, unless you are quoting Bob Arum, who told everyone that Pac would make at least 13 million for fighting Clottey (which turned out to be an exaggeration). The networks are not interested in boxing at all and they definitely wouldn't pay $15 million for a fight.
                  I thought he made $13.5 plus the ppv % to make between $17-19 mil. He couldn't of made only $7.5. Cotto made more than that when he and Manny fought.

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                  • pistol whip
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                    #189
                    Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                    After 18 pages, we will have to agree to disagree.

                    I'm with that because man i seriously just can't get on board with you. But if Timmy can beat 2 or 3 of the tough contenders in his division then hey I will be 100% with you, Hell if he just beats Kahn I would be all for it.

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                      #190
                      Originally posted by pistol whip
                      I'm with that because man i seriously just can't get on board with you. But if Timmy can beat 2 or 3 of the tough contenders in his division then hey I will be 100% with you, Hell if he just beats Kahn I would be all for it.
                      Did Clottey beat 2 or 3 tough fighters at 147??

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