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  • Originally posted by Calilloyd View Post
    Was Clottey the biggest fight? How about Alfonso Gomez, Michael Jennings for Cotto..............

    I don't know if you heard but the first Pac and mayweather negotiations didn't go so well.

    And apperently you never heard of tune up's before either? They are pretty common.

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    • Originally posted by sicko View Post
      I like Bradley a lot I think he is the BEST at 140 lbs RIGHT NOW...but realistically he needs to work his way up to a fight with Pacman or Mayweather, all of the fighters in the 140 division need to work their way up INCLUDING Khan, Khan is not worthy of a fight with Manny or Mayweather right now either

      once they all have fought and who ever is at the top after they have fought, then that fighter can start talking about possibly fighting Manny or Mayweather but until then, they all need to focus on each other not other guys in different divisions
      Thank you ***ing exactly on point!

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      • Originally posted by pistol whip View Post
        I don't know if you heard but the first Pac and mayweather negotiations didn't go so well.

        And apperently you never heard of tune up's before either? They are pretty common.
        Apparently they don't remember The Mayweather vs Marquez bout. LOL! Or Mayweather vs De Marcus Corley or Mayweather vs Mitchell or.. I'll stop. Tune-ups LOL

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        • Originally posted by pistol whip View Post
          Compared to who? You do realize that Amir Khan, Marcos Maidana, Devon Alexander, and Victor Ortiz fight in the 140 pound weight class right? Now if Bradley fought those fighters and won then yeah he deserves a shot at pac.
          When Bradley fought Witter, Khan was a prospect, Devon wasn't even a major title holder yet and neither was Maidana or Ortiz.

          Witter was the active WBC Champion.

          Holt was still the WBO Jr. WW Champion when Bradley fought him in a unification fight.

          Campbell was the active LW champion before he moved up to fight Bradley.

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          • Originally posted by Calilloyd View Post
            Your words:

            And he got all that against good pro's not world beaters, *** if Chavez Jr wins on saturday he's gonna be a undefeated world "titlist" to does that mean hes in line for a shot at Pac too?




            Did you not make the comparison? If i'm not reading that correctly, please help me and my so called "third grade reading skills"

            I made that comment to point out how just because you have an undefeated record against less than steller compatition doesn't mean you are ready to fight the #1 PFP fighter you drooling mongoloid!

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            • Originally posted by pistol whip View Post
              I don't know if you heard but the first Pac and mayweather negotiations didn't go so well.

              And apperently you never heard of tune up's before either? They are pretty common.

              Apparently you forget what you post. You said in every fight promoters are looking for the big fights. Now you're using selective memory when your argument falls flat. And Clottey was not the biggest fight outside of Mayweather. Also, Jennings was not a "tune up".

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              • Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
                When Bradley fought Witter, Khan was a prospect, Devon wasn't even a major title holder yet and neither was Maidana or Ortiz.

                Witter was the active WBC Champion.

                Holt was still the WBO Jr. WW Champion when Bradley fought him in a unification fight.

                Campbell was the active LW champion before he moved up to fight Bradley.
                And none of them were top 50 at the time and he didn't even beat Campbell so are we now giving fighters credit for wins that were ruled "no contest"?

                Someones being a hypocrite!

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                • Originally posted by -Jack- View Post
                  Arum's 100% right. Bradley still fights at desert casino's that hold 5000k people.

                  Clottey was on the world class stage and a major player at 47' for years before he laid an egg vs. Packy.

                  I don't know why he'd wanna cash Bradley out so fast anyway, once Packy murks him Bradley will be damaged goods.


                  This is funny.

                  Major player? His best win is against a shot Zab. And he was coming off a lost when he fought Manny.

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                  • Originally posted by pistol whip View Post
                    Oh I'm sorry Junior Witter, Kendell Holt, and Nate Campbell are all PFP top 400. Oh I'm sorry I forgot when you are top 400 you are automaticallty a Hall of Famer my bad.

                    It's funny how you try to divert the issue. You're argument failed when you tried to call those fighters "nobodies" and compare Bradley to chavez Jr. Now you're trying to turn this into whether they are mythical P4P fighters or HOF fighters which has absolutely nothing to do with it.

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                    • Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
                      When Bradley fought Witter, Khan was a prospect, Devon wasn't even a major title holder yet and neither was Maidana or Ortiz.

                      Witter was the active WBC Champion.

                      Holt was still the WBO Jr. WW Champion when Bradley fought him in a unification fight.

                      Campbell was the active LW champion before he moved up to fight Bradley.
                      People get too caught up in who they like to be objective. Clottey has been with top rank for some time. When he fought Manny, Bob made him out to be a way better than he was. One of the great skills of any promoter is to build credible challengers. To get people to believe the opponent is better than he is to make the champion (or main draw) look even better. But the fight wouldn't have been signed in the first place if the promoter didn't think their fighter could win.

                      So why Bob is selling Joshua Clottey as this tough ww he and the top rank matchmakers figured it would'nt be that tough for manny to win. When floyd fought JMM, GBP/Mayweather found an opponent that had a "name" and was credible but was not a real danger. Same when floyd moved up and fought Gatti, or ODH when he fought Sweet Pea and Chavez.

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