Comments Thread For: Shaw Blasts Arum Over Pacquiao-Bradley Comments

[pistol whip]

Apparently you forget what you post. You said in every fight promoters are looking for the big fights. Now you're using selective memory when your argument falls flat. And Clottey was not the biggest fight outside of Mayweather. Also, Jennings was not a "tune up".

Jennings not a tune up? Did you eat paint chips as a child? And you are right Clotty wasn't the biggest fight but it was the easiest one to make against a top 5 welter weight. Again you forget how much of a failure the first Pac May negotiations were, you really think Top Rank was wanting to go into negotiations again? Deal with all that again when they could just make a quick fight that was still gonna sell?

[Dick Buffman]

This is funny.

Major player? His best win is against a shot Zab. And he was coming off a lost when he fought Manny.

He had big time fights against Margarito and Cotto, which many think he won. He was also scheduled to fight Mosley at one time before the fight fell through and Cintron also before Cintron ducked him and went to 54'.

He's also been a top ranked WW for at least 5 years by every ranking system available.

One bad fight against Pac doesn't erase his past achievements.

[THE REED]

And none of them were top 50 at the time and he didn't even beat Campbell so are we now giving fighters credit for wins that were ruled "no contest"?

Someones being a hypocrite!

Stop relating to the P4P List... it has no bearing here.

We are talking about world champions in their weight class.

Just because they aren't in the P4P list doesnt make them NOT a world class fighter.

Are you telling there are only 10 world class fighters in the entire sport then?

NO.


And you were talking about him FACING world class opponents. He did in fact face Nate Campbell regardless of the NC.

[Calilloyd]

Jennings not a tune up? Did you eat paint chips as a child? And you are right Clotty wasn't the biggest fight but it was the easiest one to make against a top 5 welter weight. Again you forget how much of a failure the first Pac May negotiations were, you really think Top Rank was wanting to go into negotiations again? Deal with all that again when they could just make a quick fight that was still gonna sell?

Fighting for a vacant belt is not a tune up. Try again.

[Calilloyd]

I made that comment to point out how just because you have an undefeated record against less than steller compatition doesn't mean you are ready to fight the #1 PFP fighter you drooling mongoloid!

The fact that you used Chavez Jr as an example is comical and exposes your weakness in this argument. It was a silly comparison and that's being nice. Try again.

[Chief2ndzOnly!]

DLH was a big favorite and because of that deserved a shot a pac WAY more then Bradley does

You have it a little bit backwards potna. Pac got a shot at ODH not the other way around as you are asserting here in your post.

[V.WEBB]

He had big time fights against Margarito and Cotto, which many think he won. He was also scheduled to fight Mosley at one time before the fight fell through and Cintron also before Cintron ducked him and went to 54'.

He's also been a top ranked WW for at least 5 years by every ranking system available.

One bad fight against Pac doesn't erase his past achievements.

Jack, let's be serious here. Clottey is KNOWN for losing big fights. You get nothing for that. And what past achievements do you speak of?

[The Big Dunn]

You have it a little bit backwards potna. Pac got a shot at ODH not the other way around as you are asserting here in your post.

Exactly. I think most of this discussion hinges on the fact a lot of Manny fans, given his long list of outstanding accomplishments, forget this is a business. It doesn't matter where manny is on the p4p list, foty, fotd, 7 div champ. It only matters that he would be ths "a" side against every fighter except Floyd and ODH.

I think they hate the fact more people pay more money to watch floyd perform than manny.

[Chief2ndzOnly!]

The fact that you used Chavez Jr as an example is comical and exposes your weakness in this argument. It was a silly comparison and that's being nice. Try again.

Whoa Cali my man you are on fire!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Somebody please cool this man off, get him a towel, a fan, and a cold drink please!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Calilloyd]

Whoa Cali my man you are on fire!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Somebody please cool this man off, get him a towel, a fan, and a cold drink please!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yeah this topic lit a fire under me