Hair testing is the way to go for testing PEDs'

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  • Spoon23
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    #81
    Originally posted by BrooklynBomber
    Hair testing is good for drugs, but it would not tell the testosterone or red blood cell count. The two most important thing in determining how clean is the fighter of the performance enhancers
    Nope aint true hair testing has gone way advanced now. There are procedures that can do it already that is why they mentioned it before problem is it is an expensive procedure and takes time to get the results. It can detect ped's.
    Last edited by Spoon23; 06-21-2010, 12:56 PM.

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      #82
      Originally posted by Spoon23
      Nope aint true hair testing has gone way advanced know. There are procedures that can do it already that is why they mentioned it before problem is it is an expensive procedure and takes time to get the results. It can detect ped's.
      Talk is cheap, link please.

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        #83
        Originally posted by Spoon23
        Aah pubic hair armpit hair etc hehe!
        Yea, well those get shaved by a lot of people too though LOL. I was thinking maybe eyelashes of eyebrow hair, although they oblviously don't get as long as regular hair.
        I find the idea interesting, and I actually brought it up in a post when all this crap came about so long ago - but no one seems to want to ponder or adress the idea of hair testing, although it is more complicated at this time because so little is known about it for this specific issue. Props to you.

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        • Rick Grimes
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          #84
          Originally posted by Spoon23
          Nope aint true hair testing has gone way advanced know. There are procedures that can do it already that is why they mentioned it before problem is it is an expensive procedure and takes time to get the results. It can detect ped's.
          Don Catlin, the head of the Olympic Analysis Lab in Los Angeles, points out that hair picks up a lot of dirt. So a sample would have to be washed and washed, potentially washing away the steroids you're trying to find.

          Then there's the issue of analyzing the steroids that you do find. Hair tests don't differentiate between natural testosterone and what is taken externally, raising the possibility of false positives. Urine tests solve the problem by measuring the ratio between testosterone and another natural hormone, epi-testosterone. (Anything higher than 4:1 is considered out of whack.) But there's no accepted way to find the ratio in hair yet. "I'm not saying that it can't work," Catlin adds. "I just think we're a few years away."

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            #85
            Originally posted by considerthis
            i wasn't trying to get into a testing debate here. it was just funny to me how poor manny doesn't want to take a blood test...so now there's gotta be some other way.
            If the other way is just as accurate, then whats the problem?

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              #86
              Originally posted by Deevel916
              If the other way is just as accurate, then whats the problem?
              But is it? Nobody has posted a list of drugs they can detect in hair.

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                #87
                Originally posted by Mr. Blobby
                Don Catlin, the head of the Olympic Analysis Lab in Los Angeles, points out that hair picks up a lot of dirt. So a sample would have to be washed and washed, potentially washing away the steroids you're trying to find.

                Then there's the issue of analyzing the steroids that you do find. Hair tests don't differentiate between natural testosterone and what is taken externally, raising the possibility of false positives. Urine tests solve the problem by measuring the ratio between testosterone and another natural hormone, epi-testosterone. (Anything higher than 4:1 is considered out of whack.) But there's no accepted way to find the ratio in hair yet. "I'm not saying that it can't work," Catlin adds. "I just think we're a few years away."

                http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=2040176
                There you go then, hair sample with urine sample, together makes perfect tests. Both non evasive and your friend Caitlin confirms it.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Mr. Blobby
                  Don Catlin, the head of the Olympic Analysis Lab in Los Angeles, points out that hair picks up a lot of dirt. So a sample would have to be washed and washed, potentially washing away the steroids you're trying to find.

                  Then there's the issue of analyzing the steroids that you do find. Hair tests don't differentiate between natural testosterone and what is taken externally, raising the possibility of false positives. Urine tests solve the problem by measuring the ratio between testosterone and another natural hormone, epi-testosterone. (Anything higher than 4:1 is considered out of whack.) But there's no accepted way to find the ratio in hair yet. "I'm not saying that it can't work," Catlin adds. "I just think we're a few years away."

                  http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=2040176
                  Yup I read it written way back 2005, and the solution to the problem was urine testing. That is why Hair testing and urine testing can go hand in hand in the ped testing procedure. Both non-evasive and can be done multiple times ina day , week, month etc..

                  It's 2010 now, I read in an article before hair testing is so much more advanced and can detect peds. Just can't recal the procedure of that hair testing they use, but all I can remember that they can detect it's expensive and it takes time to view results.
                  Last edited by Spoon23; 06-21-2010, 12:52 PM.

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                  • Rick Grimes
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Blubba
                    There you go then, hair sample with urine sample, makes perfect tests. Both non evasive and your friend Caitlin confirms it.
                    Confirms what? That you can detect some drugs? Yes, but can drugs that can't be detected in urine but can in blood be detected in hair?

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                    • Rick Grimes
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Spoon23
                      Yup I read it, and the solution to the problem was urine testing. That is why Hair testing and urine testing can go hand in hand in the ped testing procedure. Both non-evasive and can be done multiple times ina day , week, month etc..
                      Does hair detect any drugs that can't be detected in urine? No? then what is the point?

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