Hair testing is the way to go for testing PEDs'

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  • Spoon23
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    #91
    Originally posted by Mr. Blobby
    Does hair detect any drugs that can't be detected in urine? No? then what is the point?
    That is why hair testing and urine testing can go hand in hand in the quest to clean up the sport

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    • Rick Grimes
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      #92
      Originally posted by Spoon23
      That is why hair testing and urine testing can go hand in hand in the quest to clean up the sport
      Are you ****** or something? What is the point of hair testing it it doesn't detect anything that can't be detected in urine? We know they can detect PEDs in blood that they can't in urine, that's why it is an improvement, but does hair?

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        #93
        Originally posted by BrooklynBomber
        Talk is cheap, link please.
        here is one way back 2005, http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=2040176

        there are more I read but can't recall where I read it, but that link I gave will suffice

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          #94
          The funny thing is, had Floyd demanded hair sample testing, all the floyboyz here would be making an argument for how hair is much more accurate than blood.

          Had Pac accepted blood and not hair, they would have said that he must be hiding something because hair retains xyz longer than blood!
          Last edited by Deevel916; 06-21-2010, 01:07 PM.

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            #95
            Originally posted by Mr. Blobby
            Are you ****** or something? What is the point of hair testing it it doesn't detect anything that can't be detected in urine? We know they can detect PEDs in blood that they can't in urine, that's why it is an improvement, but does hair?
            Heres a link you can read as well, http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=2040176

            Both testing procedure can detect peds, what the other one can't, then the other method will do. They have different peds that can be detected in hair testing and urine testing.

            So I have said they can work hand in hand. Both non-evasive, both have ways finding peds. So wtf don't you get lol

            What you don't get is you have been owned since page 1 lol

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              #96
              Originally posted by Spoon23
              Heres a link you can read as well, http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=2040176

              Both testing procedure can detect peds, what the other one can't, then the other method will do. They have different peds that can be detected in hair testing and urine testing.

              So I have said they can work hand in hand. Both non-evasive, both have ways finding peds. So wtf don't you get lol

              What you don't get is you have been owned since page 1 lol
              you really are a ******, PEDs are different they need to find ways to detect them in the samples they take. All we know is you can detect some PEDs in hair, not which ones and not the ones that can be found in blood. If the drugs that are detectable in blood/urine are not all detectable in hair/urine how does that make hair/urine better?

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                #97
                Originally posted by Mr. Blobby
                you really are a ******, PEDs are different they need to find ways to detect them in the samples they take. All we know is you can detect some PEDs in hair, not which ones and not the ones that can be found in blood. If the drugs that are detectable in blood/urine are not all detectable in hair/urine how does that make hair/urine better?
                Well for one hair testing isn't gonna cost 20,000$ a fighter which I hate to say is just to high of a price tag for commissions, fighters,and promoters to deal with. I'm all for better testing but it's unreasonable to think that commissions are gonna pay that much just to test fighters and appease some insecure diva who always has to drag his feet when a challange comes his way.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Mr. Blobby
                  you really are a ******, PEDs are different they need to find ways to detect them in the samples they take. All we know is you can detect some PEDs in hair, not which ones and not the ones that can be found in blood. If the drugs that are detectable in blood/urine are not all detectable in hair/urine how does that make hair/urine better?
                  lol you didn't read the link I gave you.. Where's your comprehension skills my man.. Hair testing can detect a lot of ped drugs. Plus urine can detect a lot of ped's too. Combine them both, that will be a lot of ped stuff that can be detected.

                  That link I provided was 2005, The once I read at present are better and more efficient in testing.

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                  • Rick Grimes
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Spoon23
                    lol you didn't read the link I gave you.. Where's your comprehension skills my man.. Hair testing can detect a lot of ped drugs. Plus urine can detect a lot of ped's too. Combine them both, that will be a lot of ped stuff that can be detected.

                    That link I provided was 2005, The once I read at present are better and more efficient in testing.
                    If it doesn't detect the same amount as blood/urine then it is not better, you have provided no proof that it does.

                    I'm finished here because you are obviously a little too slow to understand.

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Mr. Blobby
                      You obviously are a little slow, if it doesn't detect the same amount as blood/urine then it is not better, you have provided no proof that it does.

                      I'm finished here because you are obviously a little too slow to understand.
                      The major practical advantage of hair testing compared with urine or blood testing for drugs is that it has a larger surveillance window (weeks to months, depending on the length of the hair shaft, against two to four days for most xenobiotics).

                      Steroid detection list for hair:

                      * Anabolic Steroids
                      * Testosterone
                      * Epitestosterone
                      * DHEA
                      * Testosterone-d3
                      * Nandrolone
                      * Nandrolone-d3
                      * Metenolone
                      * Mesterolone
                      * 19-Norandrostenedione
                      * 19-Norandrostenediol
                      * Boldenone
                      * Metandienone

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