Hair testing is the way to go for testing PEDs'

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  • mikemurni
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    #41
    Originally posted by considerthis
    i wasn't trying to get into a testing debate here. it was just funny to me how poor manny doesn't want to take a blood test...so now there's gotta be some other way.
    This is to appease both sides not only Pac. Floyd will get his random drug test and the cutoff date (day of the fight) that he wants, while Pac will get assurance that the testing method use is not intrusive.

    And both fighters are inconsistent when it came to the OST issue.

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    • Real King Kong
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      #42
      Originally posted by tanibanana
      Manny does not want to take drug a blood test?

      Hello... Manny agreed the first time it was ask... and he agreed again just recently. Is that a memory gap?
      sorry..let me be more specific. he doesn't want to do random testing and he needs 2 weeks to recover before he can fight.

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      • Spoon23
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        #43
        Originally posted by considerthis
        sorry..let me be more specific. he doesn't want to do random testing and he needs 2 weeks to recover before he can fight.
        Still waiting for your answer? tick tock tick tock

        Here is the question again:

        Then answer my question you will still cheat? Answer it explain your answer? Lol this will be good..

        Question: If you are a fighter who takes peds, would you still take Ped's knowing you will got caught with the hair samples you just submitted and the results will come after a few weeks of the fight?

        Still waiting....5,4,3,2,1,0!!! Owned!!! Geez what a ***** down again haha!

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        • Mr. Ryan
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          #44
          Originally posted by considerthis
          i agree...the system needs to be revamped. but a testing procedure that takes weeks to find results is completely useless. the idea should be to catch a guy during camp and cancel the fight if someone is dirty. if we aren't talkin about safety of the fighters..then why test at all.
          I don't think any fighter has ever attributed life-altering injuries to another fighter using PEDs. I've heard of weight issues, weight discrepancies, foreign objects in gloves, but never anyone saying "He must have been on steroids!"

          Just a thought lol.

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          • Rick Grimes
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            #45
            Originally posted by tanibanana
            and these..
            Wow well guess what i found?

            New highly sensitive, specific, reliable, reproducible and robust LC–MS/MS methods were developed to detect the anabolic steroids, nandrolone and stanozolol, in human hair for the first time.
            http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...9285d9bb9fd807

            So they have only just found out a way to detect drugs in hair that have been detectable in urine for years, how many other drugs can't they detect in hair?

            Not one of the links provided says that hair can detect everything blood can.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Mr. Blobby
              Wow well guess what i found?

              New highly sensitive, specific, reliable, reproducible and robust LC–MS/MS methods were developed to detect the anabolic steroids, nandrolone and stanozolol, in human hair for the first time.
              http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...9285d9bb9fd807

              So they have only just found out a way to detect drugs in hair that have been detectable in urine for years, how many other drugs can't they detect in hair?

              Not one of the links provided says that hair can detect everything blood can.
              lol inconclusive, and just one testing method.. That is just one procedure you just brought up lol.. Doesn't say hair is a bad way of detecting Ped's.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Mr. Blobby
                Wow well guess what i found?

                New highly sensitive, specific, reliable, reproducible and robust LC–MS/MS methods were developed to detect the anabolic steroids, nandrolone and stanozolol, in human hair for the first time.
                http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...9285d9bb9fd807

                So they have only just found out a way to detect drugs in hair that have been detectable in urine for years, how many other drugs can't they detect in hair?

                Not one of the links provided says that hair can detect everything blood can.
                You can combine hair testing and urine testing that will scope a huge amount of peds that can be caught for sure lol Bothare non-evasive and can work hand in hand for catching cheaters.

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                • Rick Grimes
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Spoon23
                  lol inconclusive, and just one testing method.. That is just one procedure you just brought up lol.. Doesn't say hair is a bad way of detecting Ped's.
                  People were saying it's better, how is it better if they can't detect drugs in it that they can in urine? The best test is the one that detects the most illegal substances.

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                  • mikemurni
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Mr. Blobby
                    People were saying it's better, how is it better if they can't detect drugs in it that they can in urine? The best test is the one that detects the most illegal substances.
                    Where in that article that says that hair sample cant detect the most illegal substance. Better yet where in that article that says that blood test detects them all??

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Mr. Blobby
                      People were saying it's better, how is it better if they can't detect drugs in it that they can in urine? The best test is the one that detects the most illegal substances.
                      Urine and blood analysis don't detect toxicity on a cellular level.

                      Hair does.

                      If you clicked my link you'd know that toxic substances in the blood are quickly deposited into tissues which makes blood tests less accurate than hair samples.

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