60/40 for Floyd fair?

[Heeb]

I don't really care about how much money they make. I just want them to get the fight done.

[DiLLiNGER]

well floyd always sells more..the numbers prove it..of course it's fair.

[paulf]

GBP value he was exposed to over 4 million PPV buyers.. yet he only pulls in like 1.5 million, he is a cash cow failure

pac is the draw here

Dude you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Mayweather-Mosely was a huge, huge success. If you have a problem with Richard Schaffer lying to fans to make people think that the fight was going to be the biggest thing ever, okay, but *anything* above 500-600k in this economy is a success in itself.

1.5 million buys in a boxing PPV with two african-american boxers (no latino headliner) is a *monumental* success. It's only 600k less than the biggest boxing PPV ever, DLH-Floyd which was 2.1million.

Get your head strait and come back to reality.

[F l i c k e r]

From a business stand point, yes, it is completely fair. Floyd obviously draws more than Pacquiao. It's not even intelligently arguable. Apparently everyone and their grandma knew that Marquez-Floyd was going to be a blow out, yet it still sold more than Pacquiao-Hatton. Mosley Floyd nearly doubled Pacquiao-Clottey and still got more than Pacquiao-Cotto. It really isn't even debatable. Not if you remotely value intellect.

It's like Oscar not deserving the bigger share than Vargas. He's lucky Floyd just wants 60/40, if Floyd really wanted to over price himself, Pacquiao would be lucky to even get 25. If we really want to get to the crux of the situation.


But, I really don't care who makes the more money. Just fight already. Someone's legacy will be crushed and I want to see it go down.

[feefiflofum]

Dude you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Mayweather-Mosely was a huge, huge success. If you have a problem with Richard Schaffer lying to fans to make people think that the fight was going to be the biggest thing ever, okay, but *anything* above 500-600k in this economy is a success in itself.

1.5 million buys in a boxing PPV with two african-american boxers (no latino headliner) is a *monumental* success. It's only 600k less than the biggest boxing PPV ever, DLH-Floyd which was 2.1million.

Get your head strait and come back to reality.

i pretty much followed the hype behind may since december i know what i am talking about and i dont have a problem with wat rich said, he actually made sense to me especially with all the hype behind it, superbowl promo that exposed him to 100 million viewers, 24/7, multi-state conferences and promotions, constant pac name dropping, the fact that he had his fight behind pac which when people(casual fans) talk about pac, may is brought up and its said they didnt fight and may is fighting pac next month .. etc

FACT IS may lost 3 million, he couldnt drew it, richard projected it realistically base on the promotional value they THOUGHT they drew and why wouldnt they when they were exposed to 100 million...lying would be to say 100 million ppvs are projected... just because its unlikely

lmao@ economy..

dude where do u live? american sports fans lives revolve around sports man,you eat sleep work and watch sports... no matter if the economy is bad or not, alot of the money is devoted to it, thats how it is in america and why there r multi-millionaire athletes so dont give me that crap about economy, may was exposed to alot of casual sport fans who watch superbowl, a huge huge cash farm LMAO

fact is.. it was a huge huge monumental loss for the mayweathers

look at pac, was his fight promoted? although he was part of the hype with the drug accusation/scandal, his fight was overshadowed by that and the fact that clottey was a nobody top it off they didnt do any conferances/promo except in texas and no 24/7 to pull in the HBO VIEWERS who make up 100% of the ppv buyers
that FIGHT was a successs especially since no1 saw 700k coming.. i do believe 700k is even higher than ODLH's 4th highest fight and he made 500k in the 90's which was a huge successs

MAYWEATHER?? HELL NO


fact is it should be 60-40 in favor of pac but pac is a nice guy and makes 10 million annually outside of boxing so hes more than willing to make it 50-50 which i agree with

[paulf]

i pretty much followed the hype behind may since december i know what i am talking about and i dont have a problem with wat rich said, he actually made sense to me especially with all the hype behind it, superbowl promo that exposed him to 100 million viewers, 24/7, multi-state conferences and promotions, constant pac name dropping, the fact that he had his fight behind pac which when people(casual fans) talk about pac, may is brought up and its said they didnt fight and may is fighting pac next month .. etc

FACT IS may lost 3 million, he couldnt drew it, richard projected it realistically base on the promotional value they THOUGHT they drew and why wouldnt they when they were exposed to 100 million...lying would be to say 100 million ppvs are projected... just because its unlikely

lmao@ economy..

dude where do u live? sports fans lives revolve around sports man, no matter if the economy is bad or not, alot of the money is devoted to it, thats how it is in america and why there r multi-millionaire athletes so dont give me that crap about economy LMAO

When the economy goes down, ticket sales and everything else goes down as well. Ever hear of NFL blackout dates?

You're failing to understand that 1.5 million PPVs is one of the best selling boxing PPVs of all time. all. time. It is a tremendous, monumental success in every way. If you think otherwise based on what Richard Scaffer, a swiss banker, said while promoting the fight, you're plainly in denial and there's no two ways about it it.

Are you aware the outside of Tysons heyday PPVs, only ONE boxing pay-per-view has ever sold more than Mayweather-Mosely? Mayweather-DLH. That's it.

Quit being a Pacquiao fangirl and be real. In the sport of boxing, the guy that's the bigger draw gets the bigger payday, and Floyd is the bigger draw. His PPVs one-after-another continue to outsell anyone else's.

The truth hurts.

[feefiflofum]

When the economy goes down, ticket sales and everything else goes down as well. Ever hear of NFL blackout dates?

You're failing to understand that 1.5 million PPVs is one of the best selling boxing PPVs of all time. all. time. It is a tremendous, monumental success in every way. If you think otherwise based on what Richard Scaffer, a swiss banker, said while promoting the fight, you're plainly in denial and there's no two ways about it it.

Are you aware the outside of Tysons heyday PPVs, only ONE boxing pay-per-view has ever sold more than Mayweather-Mosely? Mayweather-DLH. That's it. Quit being a Pacquiao nuthugger and be real. In the sport of boxing, the guy that's the bigger draw gets the bigger payday, and Floyd is the bigger draw. His PPVs one-after-another continue to outsell anyone else's.

The truth hurts.

yes i am quite aware of that blackout but your analogy is flawed, the teams who suffered blackouts were usually teams who had dismal performances.. and here u look at mayweather who is supposedly some "PURE BOXER WHOS THE BEST IN THE WORLD" so ur argument fell out the window...anyways...
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with a bad economy, along with the huge prices, bad teams gave fans more than ample reason to not buy tickets... but the biggest factor is when fans lose interest in a team especially when theyre going 0-12 or 2-12 which is not underheard of.. like i said ur analogy is flawed

AGAIN.... they had the biggest hype behind him, along with pac.. i mean it would be like the lakers and celtics not pulling in their money's worth in the NBA FINALS cmon man..

face it, mayweather is a huge huge loss, you cant say its the economy, if ur logic is such then pac shouldve made only 300k

but nah your logic only further proves that pac is the draw here no matter how u cut it

so even though mayweather pulled in 1.5 million and shane probably pulled 200-300k so its more like 1.2 million, they still fail hard

no1 is dis*****g this is the 2nd highest PPV of all time.. but yet it is close to pac's 1.3 million LMAO sooo wat now


whos the draw?? pac

truth doesnt hurt dude cus ur not even talking about it, youre just spewing random anecdotes that is not even tied together

its 60-40 for pac but like i said. manny is too nice to make it so it will be 50-50 especially since hes not a ducker and he makes 10 million outside of boxing

mayweather needs pac to make money, pac doesnt, hes doing this for legacy but of course he will get what he deserve per split and he will dictate it as he should

mayweather dictating is just him putting up a roadblock to duck

and that truth hurts LOL

[damned1974]

i pretty much followed the hype behind may since december i know what i am talking about and i dont have a problem with wat rich said, he actually made sense to me especially with all the hype behind it, superbowl promo that exposed him to 100 million viewers, 24/7, multi-state conferences and promotions, constant pac name dropping, the fact that he had his fight behind pac which when people(casual fans) talk about pac, may is brought up and its said they didnt fight and may is fighting pac next month .. etc

FACT IS may lost 3 million, he couldnt drew it, richard projected it realistically base on the promotional value they THOUGHT they drew and why wouldnt they when they were exposed to 100 million...lying would be to say 100 million ppvs are projected... just because its unlikely

lmao@ economy..

dude where do u live? american sports fans lives revolve around sports man,you eat sleep work and watch sports... no matter if the economy is bad or not, alot of the money is devoted to it, thats how it is in america and why there r multi-millionaire athletes so dont give me that crap about economy, may was exposed to alot of casual sport fans who watch superbowl, a huge huge cash farm LMAO

fact is.. it was a huge huge monumental loss for the mayweathers

look at pac, was his fight promoted? although he was part of the hype with the drug accusation/scandal, his fight was overshadowed by that and the fact that clottey was a nobody top it off they didnt do any conferances/promo except in texas and no 24/7 to pull in the HBO VIEWERS who make up 100% of the ppv buyers
that FIGHT was a successs especially since no1 saw 700k coming.. i do believe 700k is even higher than ODLH's 4th highest fight and he made 500k in the 90's which was a huge successs

MAYWEATHER?? HELL NO


fact is it should be 60-40 in favor of pac but pac is a nice guy and makes 10 million annually outside of boxing so hes more than willing to make it 50-50 which i agree with

...speaking of FACTS,Pacquiao and Cotto were promoted heavily and both fighters have massive crowds,yet still didn't outsell Floyd and Shane (Shane is not a big ppv draw).So every fight Pac has had-even with common opponents,he was outsold by Floyd....that's not debatable.

Manny bases his purse split due to how much he sells with ppv (this was why he demanded more than Cotto, Hatton, Clottey, etc),so why b1tch about this when Floyd does...makes no sense.

[feefiflofum]

...speaking of FACTS,Pacquiao and Cotto were promoted heavily and both fighters have massive crowds,yet still didn't outsell Floyd and Shane (Shane is not a big ppv draw).So every fight Pac has had-even with common opponents,he was outsold by Floyd....that's not debatable.

Manny bases his purse split due to how much he sells with ppv (this was why he demanded more than Cotto, Hatton, Clottey, etc),so why b1tch about this when Floyd does...makes no sense.

bs.. pac's and cotto's fight were no more promoted than his fights with diaz or ricky, there's a constant rise of pac's ppv ratings not because hes heavily promoted in boxing but because of his boxing performance which in turns fuels journalist outside of boxing ( TIME MAGAZINE FOR EXAMPLE).. to cover him

people like pac cus of wat he does.... people like may because hes associated with pac.. just like he was associated with ricky whos the draw and he was associated with ODLH.. who was also the draw

truth is.. may is a piggybacker even his fight with shane was a piggyback off pacquiao and not cus of their fight but cus of the fight they were gonna but the negotiation stopped and there was a huge hype behind it

[paulf]

whos the draw?? pac

truth doesnt hurt dude cus ur not even talking about it, youre just spewing random anecdotes that is not even tied together

its 60-40 for pac but like i said. manny is too nice to make it so it will be 50-50 especially since hes not a ducker and he makes 10 million outside of boxing

mayweather needs pac to make money, pac doesnt, hes doing this for legacy but of course he will get what he deserve per split and he will dictate it as he should

mayweather dictating is just him putting up a roadblock to duck

and that truth hurts LOL

Let me explain something to you. I am sure you are a fan who just got into boxing because you like Pacquiao, so let me quickly explain a few bits how boxing's business side works.

DLH-Mayweather is the biggest seller of all time because two guys were huge superstars. They each made that fight as big a seller as it was. Like Holyfield-Tyson or Tyson-Lewis, two stars fighting each other makes the most money.

Pac-Cotto also had two superstars pushing it. Cotto is almost as big a star as Pac and they did very well together, just as they were supposed.

May-Mosely is special to *anyone* who knows about boxing because not only did it only have one superstar, Floyd, it had no latino in the main event. That hasn't happened in over a decade. Shane has only been on PPV as an opponent and has never been a draw.

Lastly: In the sport known as boxing, the fighter who sells more PPVs and tickets gets the bigger share of the money. That is how it works, period. If you stack Floyds numbers up next to Manny's, there's no comparison.

Don't get me wrong, I like Manny a lot, but if he wants the chance to take Floyds 0 and make history, he may need to be humble a little bit and take less money. That's how it works in boxing.

I hope you learned something, and goodnight new boxing fans.