Would Ali have stayed undefeated if he faced the same opposition as Wlad?

[knn]

Wlad can't knock out ALi with his right hand. Shavers landed his right hand flush, but didn't knock Ali out. He then proceeded to land multiple bombs and ALi took them.

You still keep repeating this nonsense about Shavers.

Shavers was a dwarf (6'0'') and had a real heavyweight KOratio (= both fighters 200+) of 60%+

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8573563#post8573563

Don't ever compare Shavers, who hasn't even won a world title, with Wlad.

Clay was knocked down by far lesser men than Wlad, for example by featherfist Frazier.

[knn]

Ali has the greatest footwork of any heavyweight in history with the speed of a devil and the reflexes that are on par with the great Roy Jones Jr.

Pure delusion.

Ali is the "Sam Peter of the 70ies", except that the real Sam Peter has at least a punch.

Ali was slow (except at the beginning of his career where he wasn't fat yet) and what you call *cough* footwork I call "clownin' and krumpin'" = running away and doing the monkey. This is so laughable.

[Mr. Mandingo]

These Ali fans are as goofy as the *****s

[Boss2k10]

Wlad would get beaten by Prime Ali by KO within 3 rounds.

To even compare them is an insult to Alis legacy. Even the shot Ali who lost to Larry Holmes would KO Wlad.

[knn]

Wlad would get beaten by Prime Ali by KO within 3 rounds.

Unfortunately for you the tallest 200+ opponent (6'4'') that Ali managed to KO within 3 rounds was bum Powell (25-11).

Moreover Ali faced 6x opponents who were 200+ and 6'4''+. He managed to KO only 2 of them: One is the aforementioned bum Powell (25-11) the other is the bum Dunn (33-12). Both are featherfists.

But I am sure: As a CLAYton you are not interested in how Ali fared in the REAL WORLD.

To even compare them is an insult to Alis legacy. Even the shot Ali who lost to Larry Holmes would KO Wlad.

Ali's legacy in legitimate heavyweight fights (both opponents 200+) is 28-4. Wlad's is now 54-3.

Ali has scored 11 KOs (in rounds 1-12) in his ENTIRE CAREER and Wlad has scored 48.

They are in a different league.

HOWEVER: My last remark is offtopic since this is not a record-comparison-thread.

[Calilloyd]

Its hard to say, anything could happen and the fighters today on average are bigger than the HWs of the past though I would think Ali could box his way to a UD against most if not all of Wlad's opponents......

maybe Chambers could present some problems for him though being a fast and very technically skilled not to mention fighter closer to Ali's size.

On another note, I don't see why ppl act like your crazy if you even suggest that its remotely possible for Wlad to have beaten the best version of Ali. He is much bigger, a harder puncher, and a very technically skilled HW. Its not a style that Wlad has shown problems against and Ali does have not possess the type of style and attributes that conventionally would be problems for Wlad.

It's not hard to say that Ali would beat opponents like Sam Peter, Lamon Brewster or Corrie Sanders when you look at the fighters he did beat.. Unless you're just being ******. The bottom line is Ali proved himself when facing adversity or at least stayed on his feet and finished. Klitschko's history shows that he has folded each time he faced any kind of serious pressure or adversity. Those are indisputable facts. I think the bigger question is what Ali opponents would have beaten Klitschko. If Corrie Sanders and Lamon Brewster could I have no doubt Foreman or Liston could.

[Jedi Vader]

Ali has the greatest footwork of any heavyweight in history with the speed of a devil and the reflexes that are on par with the great Roy Jones Jr. His height advantage isn't going to mean squat because neither Klitschko has any kind of speed and their footwork is terrible.

Ali takes them both to school and if you believe otherwise then I'm sorry but you are probably European and have a bias to fighters from your side of the world.

Neither Klitschko is worthy being mentioned in the same breath as The Great Ali.

100% fact.

[knn]

It's not hard to say that Ali would beat opponents like Sam Peter, Lamon Brewster or Corrie Sanders when you look at the fighters he did beat..

There is not a single fighter on Ali's record comparable to Sam Peter or Corrie Sanders.

Don't make things up.

Ali never faced a hard hitting southpaw. And Buster Mathis (the only comparable weightwise to Sam Peter) came from a near-3-year layoff after a defeat. Ali faced only 2x opponents as heavy as Brewster or heavier): Ali couldn't KO both of them.

[Calilloyd]

There is not a single fighter on Ali's record comparable to Sam Peter or Corrie Sanders.

Don't make things up.

And you're still an intellectually vacuous troll.

[Schmerzen]

There is not a single fighter on Ali's record comparable to Sam Peter or Corrie Sanders.

Don't make things up.

liston ko1 peter.