Why didnt pac ever fight zahir raheem?

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  • pistol whip
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    #101
    Originally posted by IMDAZED
    Take a deep breath. Now...are you done? Good.

    When have I said any slick fighter would beat Pac?

    When have I said Pac didn't go on to fight better fighters?

    Simple yes or no questions. In other words, when you're ready to have a real conversation let me know.
    I thought we were having a real conversation? My point is simply how can you say he avoided Raheem when he fought much better fighters? I mean there were lots of B- fighters in the Junior Lightweight and lightweight divisions when Pac was there but that doesn't mean a fighter of his stature had to fight all of them.

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      #102
      Originally posted by pistol whip
      Freitas won a close but justified decision and Funeka schooled him. And when you lose to a limited fighter like Rock Juarez by a wide margin yeah you have no buisness being mentioned as a fighter that the #1 PFP boxer in the world ducked.
      the freitas fight couldve gon eighter way, remember freitas at the time was a much more complete and more skilled fighter than pacquiao (at that time!).

      funeka schooled him years later, after raheem past his prime and long after discussions of him fighting pacquiao ended. bringing up that fight is like saying "fighter A never ducked taylor, taylor lost 4 of his last 5, 3 by KO" even if said fight was supposed to take place when taylor was undefeated middleweight champ.

      also funeka has the type of style to bother raheem, but in a fight between raheem and pacquiao the shoe would be on the other foot. funeka is the blueprint style of fighter to beat raheem just like raheem is the blueprint style of fighter to beat pac. the diffrence is raheem acctually fought funeka as oposed to manny who stayed away from all "kryptonite" oponents for most of his career raheem included.

      raheem was robbed blind against juarez. he won, simple as that. no point even bringing it up. and again, pacquiao wasnt the p4p best fighter in the world back then. if raheem was ducked by pacquiao he wasnt ducked by the p4p #1 cuz pac wasnt the p4p #1 yet. him being a top p4p player now is completely irrelevant, u have to look where he was at in that point of his career.

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      • IMDAZED
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        #103
        Originally posted by brick wall
        here's the thing *****...raheem's fight with juarez was close and you can say he got robbed. juarez is a brawler and he's good at it he almost beat barrera because barrera brawled with him. but in the rematch when barrera decided to box him juarez looked lost. same thing with the chris john fight...juarez can't keep up. so how come your "slick boxer" raheem who moves a lot can not dominate the smaller and shorter juarez?
        I didn't think Raheem's fight with Juarez was close. So what is your point...b*tch?

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          #104
          Originally posted by pistol whip
          I thought we were having a real conversation? My point is simply how can you say he avoided Raheem when he fought much better fighters? I mean there were lots of B- fighters in the Junior Lightweight and lightweight divisions when Pac was there but that doesn't mean a fighter of his stature had to fight all of them.
          That argument doesn't hold water. Sorry. Yes he fought better fighters but none were in place of Rahim. In place of Rahim was a guy whose ass he'd just kicked.

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          • pistol whip
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            #105
            Originally posted by Asian Sensation
            When people look back at Manny Pacquiao's career, they will ask what could have been between him and Zahir Raheem.

            Yeah Im sure it will be right up there with the what if fights like Ali vs Tyson LOL!!

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            • brick wall
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              #106
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              I didn't think Raheem's fight with Juarez was close. So what is your point...b*tch?
              fine then...juarez dominated him

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                #107
                Originally posted by brick wall
                I didn't watch the fight
                No kidding.

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                • Mr. Ryan
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by pistol whip
                  Yeah Im sure it will be right up there with the what if fights like Ali vs Tyson LOL!!
                  This is my point exactly. It just shows the dedication of boxing fans that they would dig this fantasy fight up lol.

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by Tim Horton
                    lmao. now I get why you're so bitter about 'k' -- because you don't know what you're talking about.
                    Sorry I hurt your feelings, but I know it might be unbelievable to you since you care so much about karma enough to brown nose other users for it on the forum, but some people could give a rat's ass about karma.

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by #1Assassin
                      the freitas fight couldve gon eighter way, remember freitas at the time was a much more complete and more skilled fighter than pacquiao (at that time!).

                      funeka schooled him years later, after raheem past his prime and long after discussions of him fighting pacquiao ended. bringing up that fight is like saying "fighter A never ducked taylor, taylor lost 4 of his last 5, 3 by KO" even if said fight was supposed to take place when taylor was undefeated middleweight champ.

                      also funeka has the type of style to bother raheem, but in a fight between raheem and pacquiao the shoe would be on the other foot. funeka is the blueprint style of fighter to beat raheem just like raheem is the blueprint style of fighter to beat pac. the diffrence is raheem acctually fought funeka as oposed to manny who stayed away from all "kryptonite" oponents for most of his career raheem included.

                      raheem was robbed blind against juarez. he won, simple as that. no point even bringing it up. and again, pacquiao wasnt the p4p best fighter in the world back then. if raheem was ducked by pacquiao he wasnt ducked by the p4p #1 cuz pac wasnt the p4p #1 yet. him being a top p4p player now is completely irrelevant, u have to look where he was at in that point of his career.
                      Maybe, maybe not.... I think that was a pretty bad version of Freitas. Acelino was never the ferocious fighter after the Barrios fight and Chico took his heart. Never the same mentally after those two fights IMO. He might had the physical tools over Pac at that time but not the mental strength, the heart, the toughness, the will of Pac.

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