is Miguel Cotto a Hall of Famer?

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  • Khalid X
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    #21
    The way I judge if guys should get in is by comparing them to hall of famer's in their era.

    For example Cotto resume looks very comparable if not slightly better than Winky Wright (a guy who is widely regarded as a HOF pick...although I disagree)

    Winky vs Cotto
    Both beat Shane
    Judah>that version of Ike Quartey
    Corley>McKart

    And while Winky has a win that is better than any of Cotto's resume in Felix Trinidad, Cotto's is more solid with wins over Malignaggi, Torres, Clottey, Foreman, Quintana.


    Lastly, I see people bring up Cotto losing to two of his perceived peers at the time in Margartio and Pacquiao. Well Winky did too when he lost to his peers at the time at 154 is Vargas and Simon, and later on couldn't pull of wins against Taylor and B-Hop. If you wanna use the he was robbed arguement, well you could also make a case for Cotto's Margarito loss due to loaded gloves.

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    • Boss Don
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      #22
      man Cotto fought everybody he is a HOF

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      • baya
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        #23
        Originally posted by Timmy Chans
        The way I judge if guys should get in is by comparing them to hall of famer's in their era.

        For example Cotto resume looks very comparable if not slightly better than Winky Wright (a guy who is widely regarded as a HOF pick...although I disagree)

        Winky vs Cotto
        Both beat Shane
        Judah>that version of Ike Quartey
        Corley>McKart

        And while Winky has a win that is better than any of Cotto's resume in Felix Trinidad, Cotto's is more solid with wins over Malignaggi, Torres, Clottey, Foreman, Quintana.


        Lastly, I see people bring up Cotto losing to two of his perceived peers at the time in Margartio and Pacquiao. Well Winky did too when he lost to his peers at the time at 154 is Vargas and Simon, and later on couldn't pull of wins against Taylor and B-Hop. If you wanna use the he was robbed arguement, well you could also make a case for Cotto's Margarito loss due to loaded gloves.
        this was a good compare / contrast.

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        • The Big Dunn
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          #24
          Ricardo Torres, Yuri Foreman, carlos quintana and Josh Clottey. That is HOF worthy?

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          • baya
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            #25
            Originally posted by Big Dunn
            Ricardo Torres, Yuri Foreman, carlos quintana and Josh Clottey. That is HOF worthy?
            all champions or champions after cotto fought them - but more importantly, you're forgetting his biggest W - mosley.

            that's a huge W - i don't think you're understanding the magnitude of that win.

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            • Versatility
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              #26
              Originally posted by Big Dunn
              Some people just can't be objective about quality opponents. I mean The 3 best wins on Cotto's resume are: Shane, Zab Judah, Paulie Malignaggi.

              That is not HOF caliber. So what if he has won 4 titles. The weight class argument that holds for older fighters doesn't carry as much weight today because there are so many titles. Also, cotto was the wbo ww champ. The WBO belt is garbage! Look, cotto is a very good fighter but as of today he can't possibly be a HOF.
              Thank you...god some of my rican friends are so biased

              I mean Trinidad is an HOF and an ATG, but Cotto isnt because he just doesnt have many quality wins, its not about who you fought, its about WHO YOU BEAT and WIN THE FIGHT.

              Mosley and Judah are his top 2 wins...

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              • infamous larryx
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                #27
                i think he's a fight or 2 away from being in the hof..hes on the borderline now..a win over spinks ,angulo and rematching margo would get him in

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                • brick wall
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                  #28
                  do you guys even know the criteria for which the bhof chooses the inductees? this is a "remain to be seen" kind of topic and some of you are already talking with assurance.

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                  • Mr. Ryan
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                    #29
                    I think he definitely is a Hall of Fame fighter and the moment that he's on the ballot I will vote for him.

                    If you're the type of person looking to discredit a fighter, you can do that pretty much with anyone. You can say that Ray Leonard lost to a lightweight in Duran and that Ray Robinson picked on old guys.

                    He's won world titles in three different divisions, faced guys like Pacquiao, Clottey, Yuri Foreman, Paulie Malignaggi, Antonio Margarito, Shane Mosley, Zab Judah, Carlos Quintana, who has this guy ducked?

                    Cotto lost to Margarito and Pacquiao, but the fact is that he had the audacity to face those guys when a lot of others didn't.

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                    • The Big Dunn
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by baya
                      all champions or champions after cotto fought them - but more importantly, you're forgetting his biggest W - mosley.

                      that's a huge W - i don't think you're understanding the magnitude of that win.
                      Read my 1st post. Other than mosley he has not beaten any HOF. Beating those fighters is not HOF worthy.

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