Manny Pacquiao's speed will be the defining factor in the Pac-May fight

[F l i c k e r]

fixed...... Lol

I don't see how it is hating. A hater doesn't say Pacquiao is faster than Floyd, or he will beat Floyd if Floyd cant adjust to the speed.

A hater doesn't bet with Jack that Pacquiao would beat Cotto.


If you don't know how to analyze fights or styles, that's on you. Don't go around name calling.

[RubenSonny]

You use this quote without even understanding the concept behind it. So let me get your facts straight.

Outboxer (Ali, Hearns)
Swarmer (Frazier, Greb)
Mid-ring general (Louis, Hopkins)
Slugger/brawler (Foreman, Barkley)

the swarmer stylistically is set up to take advantage of the outboxer
the outboxer can outmaneuvre the slugger
the slugger can possibly score ko's over the mid-ring general
the mid-ring man can take advantage of the swarmer's advances

the term 'mid-ring general' is probably not descriptive enough though, we have counter-punchers, defensive minded types, or all-round technicians.

So if we are going to follow just on the principle of "styles makes fights", it is still undefined technically who has the advantage since we dont know if Floyd can be consider as an out-boxer or mid-ring general. Nor we can classify if Pac is a slugger/brawler ,a swarmer, or even as a mid-ring general.

So both have the style to beat the other using this principle dependent on whether were you want to classify Pac and Floyd. Which also defeats your post altogether since you use this principle as if its a definitive conclusion that Pac is at a disadvantage, when clearly its not.

You have to classify which styles these two fighters belongs first then you draw your conclusion based on "styles makes fights" instead of mouthing off as if you know something.

LOL this post wtf.

[mikemurni]

LOL this post wtf.

Please do reply

[Kagami Taiga]

You use this quote without even understanding the concept behind it. So let me get your facts straight.

Outboxer (Ali, Hearns)
Swarmer (Frazier, Greb)
Mid-ring general (Louis, Hopkins)
Slugger/brawler (Foreman, Barkley)

the swarmer stylistically is set up to take advantage of the outboxer
the outboxer can outmaneuvre the slugger
the slugger can possibly score ko's over the mid-ring general
the mid-ring man can take advantage of the swarmer's advances

the term 'mid-ring general' is probably not descriptive enough though, we have counter-punchers, defensive minded types, or all-round technicians.

So if we are going to follow just on the principle of "styles makes fights", it is still undefined technically who has the advantage since we dont know if Floyd can be consider as an out-boxer or mid-ring general. Nor we can classify if Pac is a slugger/brawler ,a swarmer, or even as a mid-ring general.

So both have the style to beat the other using this principle dependent on whether were you want to classify Pac and Floyd. Which also defeats your post altogether since you use this principle as if its a definitive conclusion that Pac is at a disadvantage, when clearly its not.

You have to classify which styles these two fighters belongs first then you draw your conclusion based on "styles makes fights" instead of mouthing off as if you know something.

pac is not an out boxer, he's not a mid ring general, he can fight in close distance much better than manny can. the problem with a guy like floyd is he essentially has no real style. he fights to his opponents weaknesses. thats why all the boxing analyist and commentators refer to him as a genius. he really is a genius in the ring. ive seen him fight in every style u just named, whenever it suited him. he breaks all of those categories wide open. so, essentially, floyd is a nightmare for any type of fighter.

[jltsmae]

If Floyd will use his May 1 style against Pac, there is a big possibilty that Pac will KO him. But if he uses his traditional style of back pedalling and counter punching, then its going to be a long night for Pac, Floyd by decision. If Pac can't KO Clottey who is a stationary target, then there is no way he can KO a back pedalling/ counter punching Floyd. I can see the frustration on Pac chasing Floyd the whole night just like what happened when Cotto started back pedal during the latest rounds. If Pac got speed (5th gear), Floyd also got reverse speed (6th gear).

[feefiflofum]

I don't see how it is hating. A hater doesn't say Pacquiao is faster than Floyd, or he will beat Floyd if Floyd cant adjust to the speed.

A hater doesn't bet with Jack that Pacquiao would beat Cotto.


If you don't know how to analyze fights or styles, that's on you. Don't go around name calling.

well the way u speak u r overlooking alot of why pac wins and focusing on why he might lose.. last i check he hasnt lost in a while.. maybe u thiink floyd can exploit those but i doubt it LOL. and floyd didnt know how to adjust in round 1 and 2 against mosley, when mosley beat him to the jabs and tie him up, he would also punch him in the clinch getting easy points.. ref broke em up and mosley repeat it again

he got in like wat.. 8 punches? while totally neutralizing mayweather output.. in fact i believe he didnt even get in a punch lmaoo.. but that was enough to win rounds for mosley

the only thing that we saw adjust was mosley's stamina in round 3... so to me that fight made him look for very suspect for a speedy hug and pound strategy...especially with an endurance freak like manny
I CAN DEFINITELY SEE ROACH INCORPORATING THAT IN THEIR STRATEGY cus thats wat they usually do.. see a weakness and find a method that works.. kinda like wat they tried to do with hatton.. which was all pre-planned

[RubenSonny]

u saw what happen to may when he faced a considerably faster and sometimes equally fast handspeed with mosley in rounds 1 and 2 and pac is faster than mosley

pac can emulate mosley far better using his left-straight as if hes jabbing without setting it up like he did against ODLH and then tie up mayweather so he cant score and while theyre tied up he can sneak up 1 or 2 body punches

this would by far be the easiest strategy which manny can employ and with his stamina, he can maintain it for 12 rounds... tooo easy

but everyone knows manny is too good just to decision you recently... he will knock u the f out and thats wat hes gonna do to mayweather

@rubensonny

r u asking which of pac's opponents are as fast as mayweather? alot of the little dudes at 125-130 that pac faced are faster than may at 147 b4 he moved up in weight and pac hasnt lost much speed, hes as fast as any fast featherweight, it's just a fact of life, when youre smaller and lighter youre faster but less powerful while may is alot more powerful than them at 147

your question is irrelevant though cus its like ur just finding way it's like you just don't wanna wake up and face the music, here's a reality of life and boxing, may had a problem with mosley when he was faster now put pac in the equation...
if u cant picture it in ur brain ill show u this gifs of manny and mosley doing the same thing but pac is faster






props to m@nny... its his gifs, its in his sig


can u imagine wat would happen if that was pac instead of mosley in that round.. oh wait u dont have to, it shows in the other gifLMAO

may can see this in his mind, who would better visualize how a boxing match can go down than someone whos pretty much a boxing expert like floyd mayweather
if he was confident to beat manny, he would sign it and tell people how exactly he would beat him..kinda like how he right away predicted how he would beat mosley.. which he did right down to the letter when mosley gassed from the 3rd to the 12th round

until now, mayweather hasnt spoken on how he can beat him... because he hasnt figured it out

even may sr knows its gonna be hard just because pac is a southpaw.. another advantage for pac


the more relevant question is.. how do u avoid manny's speed and beat him in a boxing match.. especially with him being a southpaw?... floyd hasnt figured it out yet thats why his ass is running, saying hes retiring, making roadblocks etc.... can u?? if u figure this one out, email it to team mayweather.. im sure when they learn it they will re-consider fighting manny LMAO

okay sorry i didnt see it, he can use the jab to negate his speed and close the distance taking the fight inside, what would manny do then?

[RubenSonny]

okay sorry i didnt see it, he can use the jab to negate his speed and close the distance taking the fight inside, what would manny do then?

yo i didnt mean to multiquote

[Pacquiao'd]

floyd: SPEED & TIMING>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>pac: speed

[mikemurni]

pac is not an out boxer, he's not a mid ring general, he can fight in close distance much better than manny can. the problem with a guy like floyd is he essentially has no real style. he fights to his opponents weaknesses. thats why all the boxing analyist and commentators refer to him as a genius. he really is a genius in the ring. ive seen him fight in every style u just named, whenever it suited him. he breaks all of those categories wide open. so, essentially, floyd is a nightmare for any type of fighter.

Which makes it difficult because Pac can also be classified in different categories dependent who he is fighting against. It differs from fight to fight. The only thing we can be assure of is that he is not an out-boxer. But he can be a swarmer,slugger or a mid-ring general.

Floyd at least cannot be considered as swarmer and a slugger. That is pretty much clear. Do you agree?

So given that how the hell can you make a conclusion based on "styles makes fights", when clearly both fighters styles differ on fight per fight basis.