Manny Pacquiao's speed will be the defining factor in the Pac-May fight

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  • Dick Buffman
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    #41
    Originally posted by F l i c k e r
    Nah bro. Mosley is a big hitter, 1 punch guy. If he could hurt Margarito bad, with every punch he threw, I wasn't surprised that he hurt Mayweather with the only hayemaker he landed.


    Manny isn't like Mosley at all. Mosley has much more power than Manny. With his predictable style, as long as Mayweather can match speed and get the timing down. Manny will look like Phillip Ndou.
    Yoiu grossly underrate Pac's dynamism and creativity. Not to mention his determination and stamina.

    Floyd's scared and asking for drug testing for a reason. He knows he's in for an asswhoopin'.

    Pac may be small (which Floyd likes) but unlike the rest of his opponents, he's neither old nor shot.

    Its over.

    I'll bet you too.

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    • Hi-Dro
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      #42
      speed isn't everything...


      there are a lot of factors that go in a fight...

      what counters speed? The answer is timing, and good counterpunching skills...


      Who has the best timing, precision, and counter punching skills in the game? The answer is Mayweather...

      all I'm saying is that speed isn't everything in a fight...

      when your opponent is Manny...

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      • RubenSonny
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        #43
        Originally posted by feefiflofum
        you havent answer the question i posed man,man up
        when u do i will engage u back cus ur argument is about as weak as if it was me claiming none of floyd's opponents have the footwork, speed, power, angles and versatility as pac all wrapped up in one package which makes him the number 1 pound for pound right 7 champion.. etc yadda yadda so pac will pound him, thats horse***** so i wont go there
        what question was that?

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        • Gorilla Dogs
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          #44
          if you dont think manny has 1 punch Ko power.....


          I refer you to this video bye bye

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          • F l i c k e r
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            #45
            Originally posted by Jo94403
            And I believe Manny will out speed Floyd.

            You know Freddie will tell him to go in and out. Punch in bunches and get out of there. Then reload again.

            The difference I see between Floyd and Marquez even though they are both counter punchers, is that Marquez defense is also his offense.

            You hear Nacho all the time tell Marquez to keep on punching. When he fought Manny, he blocked a lot of Manny's shot because he kept on punching.

            Floyd's defense is to wait for his opponent to jump first then he hits you. It will be hard if the other guy is faster than you.

            Floyd did it all night with Marquez and Mosley and if you see the slomo, you can tell Floyd beat them to the punch all night long.

            It will not be the same when he fights Manny. Manny's hand and foot speed will give him trouble. And we will have to wait and see how he adjust to it.

            I don't disagree. But it wont be the first time Floyd has fought someone with more speed than him.

            But I will address that Nacho thing. That is why Marquez loss. He tried to brawl Pacquiao. Mistake. When Marquez was pure counter punching, he gave Pacquiao hell.

            Mayweather won't brawl. That isn't debateable. So, I want to see how Freddie will give an old dog new tricks. Because all that **** goes out the window once the fight gets hot. Ask any veteran pro boxer.

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            • slickfox
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              #46
              Originally posted by Madaya
              whens the last time Floyd fought a guy under the age of 50? or a fighter in their prime for that matter. Think about it
              if you want to give manny credit for hatton, floyd gets double the credit for beating a guy that was undefeated and if he ever had a prime that was it. Same goes for floyd taking out dlh at his natural weight and once again at a younger age. It never ceases to amaze me how floyd gets LITTLE credit for beating those guys while pacquiao its hailed as a god for those wins even though they came against the same guys yet even further from their prime and not in optimal condition for the fight. Floyd says some ****** **** but he is right about this double standard

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              • Gorilla Dogs
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                #47
                Originally posted by slickfox
                if you want to give manny credit for hatton, floyd gets double the credit for beating a guy that was undefeated and if he ever had a prime that was it. Same goes for floyd taking out dlh at his natural weight and once again at a younger age. It never ceases to amaze me how floyd gets LITTLE credit for beating those guys while pacquiao its hailed as a god for those wins even though they came against the same guys yet even further from their prime and not in optimal condition for the fight. Floyd says some ****** **** but he is right about this double standard
                Lmao Floyd win a controversial split decision. How do you give him much credit if at all any credit for that win? I thought De La Hoya won the fight. And i also thought floyd lost to castillo 1

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                • feefiflofum
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by P4P305
                  Timing > Speed.
                  lol.. dude mosley is doing baby jabs with no footwork.. look at him.. da *** hes gassed

                  he doesnt even have his gloves up to cover his chin for defensive purposes .. i mean one glove?? cmonlmaoo

                  yah thats what happens when u gassing and cant quite focus

                  pac usual strategy for jabs in general is to match ur footwork with gloves up, if u lean in he will adjust and move back or side to side to avoid it then attack u LMAO if its not that, he will beat u to the jabs.. feign and punch through while the puncher is attacking, this was shown against cotto, u jab him he moves slightly to the left and use ur momentum for a hard hook.... LIKE THIS GIF




                  cotto jabs.. the part where pac uses his footwork to go backwards is not shown but u can tell from the start its like hes moving slightly back and then.. pac punch midway thru the jab and beat him to it with a right hook.. BAM.. notice hes footwork is constantly in motion even after that unlike mosley who punches 1 punch and plants himself for counters.. pac is untouchable



                  of course if hes not doing those methods.. he just puts his gloves up to cover the chin and adjust footwork or bend backwards slightly to be out of range and then do an attack..he can do this all 12 rounds

                  fact is pac has alot of tricks in the bag that could be missed by the not so observant fan who brushes him off just because he doesnt look like a textbook boxer


                  yah that's a nice gif.. for decoration

                  fact is only way mayweather would touch pac is if pac lets him.. kinda like how he let cotto and clottey
                  Last edited by feefiflofum; 06-13-2010, 10:19 PM.

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                  • slickfox
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                    #49
                    almost all experts believe floyd beat dlh 7-5 at best, most think it was 8-4. Manny would have gotten KTFO fighting that version of dlh at 154 at that time so you cant even compare.

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                    • F l i c k e r
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Jack Burton
                      Yoiu grossly underrate Pac's dynamism and creativity. Not to mention his determination and stamina.

                      Floyd's scared and asking for drug testing for a reason. He knows he's in for an asswhoopin'.

                      Pac may be small (which Floyd likes) but unlike the rest of his opponents, he's neither old nor shot.

                      Its over.

                      I'll bet you too.

                      He isn't very dynamic. He is very linear.


                      Manny Pacquiao is a head hunter. That narrows down what to expect. He mainly throws straight punches. That narrows down even further what to expect. When he doesn't throw straights, everything else is wide/loopy. Unless Floyd uses the winky guard, he will see it a mile away. He uses the winky guard, it's possible that he will get hit with it.

                      It will be Pacquiao's speed and output. I believe he has faster hands than Floyd and the only way he will win is by throwing 1000(hyperbole) punches.

                      However, once the speed is neutralized by Floyd's near flawless timing. It will be a long day at the office. Floyd will adjust and get the timing down, there is no question about it.

                      Too easy to predict and too linear. That's why Roger called Pacquiao's skill amateur. Not his physical ability(speed, power, strength etc.), his skills (technique, variety of punching, etc. etc.). You can only left straight for so long till your neutralized completely.

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