Manny Pacquiao's speed will be the defining factor in the Pac-May fight

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  • neoz
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    #71
    Originally posted by slickfox
    almost all experts believe floyd beat dlh 7-5 at best, most think it was 8-4. Manny would have gotten KTFO fighting that version of dlh at 154 at that time so you cant even compare.


    Only version tat would be competitive with Pacman is the Whittaker fight.

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    • Toxic
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      #72
      Originally posted by F l i c k e r
      I'm not hating. I'm speaking the truth.



      He didn't know what to do against Clottey. Freddie told him go to the body. So Pacquiao, not knowing what the hell to do. Just threw as many punches as he could. Whether it hit arms or not. Even Jose Benevidez would have punched the openings in Clottey's guard, specially if Clottey fought like that.

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      lol

      What you failed to realized is, that Pac is really targeting that elbow!!!!

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      • Kagami Taiga
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        #73
        Originally posted by mikemurni
        Which makes it difficult because Pac can also be classified in different categories dependent who he is fighting against. It differs from fight to fight. The only thing we can be assure of is that he is not an out-boxer. But he can be a slugger or a mid-ring general.

        Floyd at least cannot be considered as swarmer and a slugger. That is pretty much clear. Do you agree?

        So given that how the hell can you make a conclusion based on "styles makes fights", when clearly both fighters styles differ on fight per fight basis.
        oh, u say floyd cant be considered a swarmer or slugger, but he can. he has fought tht way when he chose to. look at his fight with emmanuel augustus or even his fight with corley. it is true, however, he hasnt fought that way in some time. but i also feel he hast fought that way, not because he cant but because he hasnt needed to. he's become so smart and so able to n.eutralize ppl's best weapons that he doesnt need to take risks. good for him, bad for fans. i personally think floyd is a bad matchup for manny, manny can try to swarm him, like u say, the problem is manny is at a disadvantage in arm length/strength and height with a guy who can essentially become a mid-ring general at any time. and even if manny doe get on the inside, floyd is not afraind to tie him up n fight him in the pocket.

        thats why this fight is 60-40 to me. i think it all depends on how much faster manny is and how much floyd's skills have,, in fact declined. if this fight had taken place, say, 4 or 5 yrs ago or even at 130 or 135, it would be nearly impossible for manny to win.

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          #74
          Originally posted by mikemurni
          Which makes it difficult because Pac can also be classified in different categories dependent who he is fighting against. It differs from fight to fight. The only thing we can be assure of is that he is not an out-boxer. But he can be a swarmer,slugger or a mid-ring general.

          Floyd at least cannot be considered as swarmer and a slugger. That is pretty much clear. Do you agree?

          So given that how the hell can you make a conclusion based on "styles makes fights", when clearly both fighters styles differ on fight per fight basis.
          dude, pacs swarming and slugging always comes from his mid range pounce attack.

          you know what you are getting with pac, unlike floyd

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            #75
            Originally posted by neoz


            Only version tat would be competitive with Pacman is the Whittaker fight.
            dlh wasnt even prime in tht fight. ur wrong dude.

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            • feefiflofum
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              #76
              Originally posted by mikemurni
              Which makes it difficult because Pac can also be classified in different categories dependent who he is fighting against. It differs from fight to fight. The only thing we can be assure of is that he is not an out-boxer. But he can be a swarmer,slugger or a mid-ring general.

              Floyd at least cannot be considered as swarmer and a slugger. That is pretty much clear. Do you agree?

              So given that how the hell can you make a conclusion based on "styles makes fights", when clearly both fighters styles differ on fight per fight basis.
              exactly my dude, pac doesnt fight 1 fight, his metamorphisize himself from ODLH and diaz where he was boxer fighting two diffrent styles base on the height and reach diffrences.. the most pronounce thing i that awe me was how pac used his left straight as if he was jabbing ODLH just because of the huge height and reach diffrent between them and he beat ODLH to the jab everytime while moving about on his toes i mean *****.. u usually jab and set up the straight or cross but manny just straight it like it was a jab, to cotto as a brawler( this is an oversimplification but that was how he came across removing all the minor subtlies that has to do with his offense and defense intelligence) to hatton being a methodical fighter and just someone who will wail on u to open u up like he did against clottey...

              pac is unpredictable especially when u dont know the gameplan they r gonna execute..and roach always change that **** up
              Last edited by feefiflofum; 06-13-2010, 11:07 PM.

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              • mikemurni
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                #77
                Originally posted by DempseyRollin
                oh, u say floyd cant be considered a swarmer or slugger, but he can. he has fought tht way when he chose to. look at his fight with emmanuel augustus or even his fight with corley. it is true, however, he hasnt fought that way in some time. but i also feel he hast fought that way, not because he cant but because he hasnt needed to. he's become so smart and so able to n.eutralize ppl's best weapons that he doesnt need to take risks. good for him, bad for fans. i personally think floyd is a bad matchup for manny, manny can try to swarm him, like u say, the problem is manny is at a disadvantage in arm length/strength and height with a guy who can essentially become a mid-ring general at any time. and even if manny doe get on the inside, floyd is not afraind to tie him up n fight him in the pocket.

                thats why this fight is 60-40 to me. i think it all depends on how much faster manny is and how much floyd's skills have,, in fact declined. if this fight had taken place, say, 4 or 5 yrs ago or even at 130 or 135, it would be nearly impossible for manny to win.
                So basically your post is based on the physical disadvantage that Pac has over Floyd, which you have a point. Because the other poster is tryin' to use the concept of styles makes fights as if its the end all of all conversation when clearly its not.

                But you also have to figure out that Pac is also a southpaw with speed and good power something that Judah and Corley (based on the comparison that both fighters are southpaws) is not. Although I can possibly say that Floyd's physical attributes place him in an advantage over Pac but not that much..

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                • Webber676
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                  #78
                  Floyd has a very bad habit that most of fighters fail to capitalize on, he all the time put his head down over and and over again, but mark my words, Manny will tag him with with his blazing left hand and uncanny ability to throw punches from all angles and precision. If Mayweather ever test the canvas is over because the Filipino sensation has the power and stamina to finish what he starts.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Toxic
                    lol

                    What you failed to realized is, that Pac is really targeting that elbow!!!!

                    okay. /sarcasm

                    make things up why don't you.


                    Mayweather really wasn't rocked, he just wanted to make Mosley waste all his energy.

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                    • mikemurni
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by yesir
                      dude, pacs swarming and slugging always comes from his mid range pounce attack.

                      you know what you are getting with pac, unlike floyd
                      The last thing you can accuse Pac of is being predictable. If anything he has been unpredictable in his fights especially his most recent ones.

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