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  • swizz
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    #421
    Originally posted by maddox22
    Foreman and Cotto have the possibility of using PEDs since they didn't undergo random blood test.

    Well, no one cares.
    new york blood test their fighters except they tell you when

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    • mrjoeblive
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      #422
      Originally posted by Reloaded
      Whos experts were they and then what side did they back in their findings and then who does the writer of the article side with in his interpretation of proceedings , reminds me of the cigarette companys and their experts doctors giving evidence , its not hard to read between the lines .
      good post. this dr probably sides with NSAC. all the NSAC wants is to not spend too much money. its been proven the current protocals dont do enough. we have observed several fighters admit to using peds. although they were not caught by NSAC. and this dr is saying what? we shouldnt test due to possible INFECTIONS??????????????? he admits some fighters caught infections by being tested with needles that were used more than once. besides being very NASTY, everyone in the medical profesion knows you dont re-use needles. and the possiblity of a hematoma is little to none. if you have a trained phlibotomist do the draw you will have no problem. there is always a small possibility of a freak accident. but that shouldnt stop NSAC from making progress. olympic athletes are tested the day of events some times and they dont say "i feel drained by the draw" and this dr did not support the theory of blood draws make you weak, because he knows the body replaces the amt of blood drawn before you leave the drs office.this dr is trying to get published IMO the things he talked about are very old. who doesnt know not to re-use needles? get real please.

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      • mrjoeblive
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        #423
        Originally posted by MayMafia
        Tygart (LAWYER): I agree with Mayweather

        *****S: See, Tygart is an expert...

        NUMEROUS MEDICAL DOCTORS: I agree with Pacquiao

        *****S: Doctors know nothing about peds.....
        this post is factually wrong because there have not been numerous drs that have agreed with pac on this subject. if you talk to many drs they will tell you how easy it is to beat a urinalysis and a planned blood draw. also you dont think drs work with our olympic athletes? just lawyers? you are funny. i like how you flat out lied and state "NUMEROUS" drs.this is the first post that comes from a dr that support not taking blood from a fighter. but he relies on out dated material. if you believe this dude then you must be at grave risk every time you go to your dr. ask you dr if they re-use needles and watch him laugh and re assure you they dont.and we have heard from "NUMEROUS" boxers that they used peds and were not caught. where do we draw the line.

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        • iskupaldi
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          #424
          Tygart Just wants a piece of the pie, plain and simple. They're track records are not that good. They have not caught any high profile athlete. The Jones' of the world can attest to that. They were not caught by their test. They admitted to using them though. There's big money to be gain here

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          • mrjoeblive
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            #425
            Originally posted by Talon
            the doctor backing pacquiao were bribed.. the do it for olympic boxing don't they?
            not only boxing, but every other olympic sport.

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            • jayhova29
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              #426
              Originally posted by kadyo
              *****s may be very very mad at Dr. David Watson now and may brand him a *******. LOL

              Wait, *****s will express their "expert" opinions here and say how watson is so so so very evry wrong.
              No not at all, one dr.s opinion, then team mayweather will bring in a dr. to dispute his claims, and this bull**** will happen all over again. DAMMMMMM, team pacquaio really doesn't want his fighter submitting to any form of RANDOM TESTING, so much so that this dr is against testing for hiv and hep because of the fear of having the fighter catch and infection. WOW, so you can have aids and fight because the puncture wound on his arm can cause hematomas, however if you bleed on your opponent and infect him, then thats all good. I GOT YOU DR. The one thing i find humorous about this whole fiasco is that you never heard any thing about manny being supersticious until mayweather asked for random testing.

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              • baracuda
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                #427
                Originally posted by swizz
                new york blood test their fighters except they tell you when
                bll****...floyd is the first to ever demand blood test in the whole country...prolly the 2nd in the world........

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                • mrjoeblive
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                  #428
                  Originally posted by Championart
                  Please don't tell me this is going to be the newest excuse for Pac to use in order not to get tested. Not dis*****g what the doctors are saying at all but going by this logic, then fighters just shouldn't be tested by blood tests for anything period and even the commission's useless tests in place already are too harmful and dangerous for fighters. You've got to be kidding me. Of course you can get infected through injections but it was never a problem when it came to the NSAC's useless tests, how come all of a sudden its a problem for USADA's?
                  look as a person that gives multiple injections daily, i have to say this. there is a very,very,very,very small chance of anyone getting an infection from a blood draw if protocals are followed. the only way i can think of a person having an adverse effect from a blood draw is if, the skin is not cleaned off at the draw site which would give you whats called a drag in infection. or if needles are re-used which no true medical profesional would do. this is much ado about nothing. thousands and thousands of people get blood drawn each day and you dont have many adverse effects from healthy people. now if the person is already compromised by a disease process then you have a different story. but in healthy athletes, no problems.

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                  • Red_Menace
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                    #429
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    LOL. According to these doctors, NSAC should stop testing for AIDS and stuff because a blood test could be harmful
                    No kidding. Not to mention they should ban rehydration through IVs, which is very common. Hell, Roach said he knew Oscar was done for their fight because he could still see the IV mark on Oscar's arm and knew he hadn't rehydrated properly. There should be a full-on ban of all needles, because of the rampant health repercussions.

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                    • mrjoeblive
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                      #430
                      Originally posted by iskupaldi
                      Tygart Just wants a piece of the pie, plain and simple. They're track records are not that good. They have not caught any high profile athlete. The Jones' of the world can attest to that. They were not caught by their test. They admitted to using them though. There's big money to be gain here
                      thats because they were tested by NSAC not USADA you bolster the point im trying to make.

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