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  • Drunken Cat
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    #411
    Originally posted by The Gambler1981
    I read the article and the first thing I though was that is an excuse and not a good point. You obviously didn't, anything I read I form an opinion about almost immediately unless it was really profound, which this was not it was simple and not even really scientific.

    No **** you can get infection from needles? Who the **** does not know that? They should be doing their jobs to make sure that **** doesn't happean but that is no reason to not do testing.

    As for cleaning up the sport I am sure Mayweather would like his name attached with such a thing going forward, it leads to being remembered in a positive light. As for being a rah rah leader for the subject, boxing is a very fractured sport and while someone needs to probably be in the lead vocally for it to be changes Floyd is probably not the best person other than being recognizeable.

    Every journey starts with a first step and Floyd is helping to make those first steps happean.


    Try again.
    Good day to you then, you fucking two-bit moron.

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    • Talon
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      #412
      the doctor backing pacquiao were bribed.. the do it for olympic boxing don't they?

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      • Championart
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        #413
        Please don't tell me this is going to be the newest excuse for Pac to use in order not to get tested. Not dis*****g what the doctors are saying at all but going by this logic, then fighters just shouldn't be tested by blood tests for anything period and even the commission's useless tests in place already are too harmful and dangerous for fighters. You've got to be kidding me. Of course you can get infected through injections but it was never a problem when it came to the NSAC's useless tests, how come all of a sudden its a problem for USADA's?
        Last edited by Championart; 06-10-2010, 02:34 PM.

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          #414
          Originally posted by Championart
          Please don't tell me this is going to be the newest excuse for Pac to use in order not to get tested. Not dis*****g what the doctors are saying at all but going by this logic, then fighters just shouldn't be tested by blood tests for anything period and even the commission's useless tests in place already are too harmful and dangerous for fighters. You've got to be kidding me.
          PAC been tested by blood in the past, so dont worry.

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          • The Gambler1981
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            #415
            Originally posted by Nodogoshi
            Yes, I do know what staff is, as I have had it a number of times in the past. You see, I have actually trained and fought before. And while I had merely a short run in amateur boxing, I have done quite well in other sports, especially wrestling and judo, in each case, training in gyms and combating infection from time to time.

            Nevertheless, I was merely going off the information presented in the article. Oh and by the way, do you suggest it is prudent for a person to submit themselves to additional risk when approaching any situation, let alone a championship-level boxing match, the likes to which, irregardless of the fantasy world you may live in, you could not possibly relate?

            Again, I have never opposed the tests on the grounds of principle. I merely have questions about motive in regards to Floyd and his team. The tests have been used as basically nothing other than a negotiating ploy and a tool for vitriol, and possibly a means for Floyd to avoid the fight.

            I'll ask again, do you truly believe that Floyd is "trying to clean up boxing?"
            It is Staph no "staff" if you want to claim to be trained.

            I don't consider those to be risks because that fall under normal risks that a fighter goes through everyday. If I work in a trainyard I may get run over by a train~ my odd would go way up but if I feel I am being paid well enough the odds are accceptable.

            I think the article is a crock of **** because those are not valid reasons, which I have stated several times. Which is why i am in the thread, if you have no opinion on the matter, the care or don't think it is a big deal why post in this thread.

            Better yet why try and argue when you have no business even trying to argue the points you have been stating~

            Oh and if Manny could have agreed to the terms that he now accepts the fight would have happeaned, so that leads me to believe Manny and his team knows they can't win and just looking at both fighters I agree with that point of view~


            The difference between me an you is I read and form my own opinions, you are told what to think or just follow the heard like a sheep or lemming if you liek that term better~

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            • The Gambler1981
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              #416
              Originally posted by JAB5239
              Well, I still disagree here but I don't want to get into a pissing contest with you. We've disagreed in the past, we'll disagree again. But I've learned to respect your opinions and knowledge. To keep going would only invite more flaming. If you want though, PM me and we can pick it up from there in a respectful manner.
              I wasn't going to flame you anyways sicne I am already in a pissing contest. It really is not that big a deal though, because either way I would think we would both want the situation to end.

              What is going on or how it gets there 100% (or who fault is whose) well hoepfully we can argue about taht after the fight gets made

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              • The Gambler1981
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                #417
                Originally posted by Nodogoshi
                Good day to you then, you fucking two-bit moron.
                What was wrong about what I typed (the bolded), the only reason Floyd would want his name attached lioke this to better drug testing it to get remembered for that also. It would not be like the Muhammed Ali act, but Floyd could certainly point to what he did for the sport.

                To me that is a selfish reason to want to do something and makes sence with Floyd's character, I don't think he cares that much about the principle but for selfish reason I could see how he would want it to be more remembered. Ialways though the Floyd cared zero about OST was a weak arguement, he cares about it for selfish reason, but even soemthing done for selfish reasons can turn out to be for the greater good.

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                • Drunken Cat
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                  #418
                  Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                  It is Staph no "staff" if you want to claim to be trained.

                  I don't consider those to be risks because that fall under normal risks that a fighter goes through everyday. If I work in a trainyard I may get run over by a train~ my odd would go way up but if I feel I am being paid well enough the odds are accceptable.

                  I think the article is a crock of **** because those are not valid reasons, which I have stated several times. Which is why i am in the thread, if you have no opinion on the matter, the care or don't think it is a big deal why post in this thread.

                  Better yet why try and argue when you have no business even trying to argue the points you have been stating~

                  Oh and if Manny could have agreed to the terms that he now accepts the fight would have happeaned, so that leads me to believe Manny and his team knows they can't win and just looking at both fighters I agree with that point of view~


                  The difference between me an you is I read and form my own opinions, you are told what to think or just follow the heard like a sheep or lemming if you liek that term better~
                  You have me dead wrong, and yourself as well. I suggest you reevaluate things a bit, if you are really so prone to make so outlandish a comment as this, as you are clearly anything but impartial.

                  Now, and this is from the heart, go fuck yourself. You have nothing to say which is in even the remotest sense of any interest to me.

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                  • The Gambler1981
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                    #419
                    Originally posted by Nodogoshi
                    You have me dead wrong, and yourself as well. I suggest you reevaluate things a bit, if you are really so prone to make so outlandish a comment as this, as you are clearly anything but impartial.

                    Now, and this is from the heart, go fuck yourself. You have nothing to say which is in even the remotest sense of any interest to me.
                    That is how you validate your arguements, good work~

                    Stay classy~ but you should relax a bit not healthy to be so angry and up tight.
                    Last edited by The Gambler1981; 06-10-2010, 02:50 PM.

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                    • MayMafia
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                      #420
                      Tygart (LAWYER): I agree with Mayweather

                      *****S: See, Tygart is an expert...

                      NUMEROUS MEDICAL DOCTORS: I agree with Pacquiao

                      *****S: Doctors know nothing about peds.....

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