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  • 4773Y350NM3
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    #401
    Originally posted by COACH-WEBB
    Fine...but the same needles can be used with HIV testing.
    so they better be careful then right?

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    • Drunken Cat
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      #402
      Originally posted by The Gambler1981
      The point is **** happeans, and hiding in a hole will not really make you live longer.

      Taking the tests is not above an beyon what they would be doing, there are huge risk of infection of staph in any gym enviroment or do you want to say fights should not go to the gym and train?

      On a side note you wrote 5 paragraphs and said jack **** try again.
      I said jack **** to which you felt so compelled to respond?

      And nice use of the strawman there.

      For one thing, I was referring to the arguments of the article, not necessarily saying that I either agree or disagree. I'm not a doctor, fancy that. I do have the capability to read an article however, and understand what it is that is being written about, unlike fully 90%+ of this forum, in which yourself is apparently included.

      I'll ask you this, do you truly believe that Mayweather is merely trying to "clean up the sport"? Do you really buy into the position that this is not a negotiating tactic?

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      • JAB5239
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        #403
        Originally posted by COACH-WEBB
        There is a risk though...they could use the same the needles.
        IF they used the same needles, yes. But we both know that wasn't what I was talking about.

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        • The Gambler1981
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          #404
          Originally posted by Nodogoshi
          Just shut the fuck up already. I'm prepared to support all of my assertions, although this garbage dump of a forum is not necessarily a place in which opportunities to do so are readily available, as it were. You are out of your league though, and trying to match me in terms of rhetoric, but utterly failing to do so, does not help your case.
          Haha, I supported my points, I am just more to the point than yourself and only a person of marginal intelligence would post five paragraphs to say would could be said in three sentences.

          Your agruement is charmin soft and has no validity. Fighters run a huge risk of infection just by being in the gym training~

          You get this? staph live in dank places like gyms that are not really clean, staph that is resistent to antibiotics. Taking blood in a properly cleaned evniroment is less of a risk of infection than training to fight~

          So how is what these doctors are sayin is anythign mroe than an excuse.


          Come stronger if you want to come see me.

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          • kidrak
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            #405
            all *****s are just jealous with the pacman!!!hahaha coz their gayweather cant achieve what manny already achieved!!!hahahahaha poor girls!!!!\

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            • The Gambler1981
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              #406
              Originally posted by JAB5239
              So who is to say who is right and who is wrong? Obviously there are still question marks, no?

              Manny probably should have handled this differently, but I still believe he just didn't want to give Floyd his own way, and even now doesn't want to completely give in just because Floyd says so. Jmo.
              I still think that is foolish because this **** needs to be ended, I am positive Floyd is not going to end it (and even if he does that really doesn't stop people talking like this).

              To me it is on Manny to end this since he pretty much started this circus (by saying no, you can go further back but to me the real start of the circus begins with manny saying no) but still even if you disagree on the start really the only person with the power to end the situation is Manny.

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                #407
                LOL.... Raging *****sexuals getting pwned by doctors and they're still defending their gay god...

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                • Drunken Cat
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                  #408
                  Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                  Haha, I supported my points, I am just more to the point than yourself and only a person of marginal intelligence would post five paragraphs to say would could be said in three sentences.

                  Your agruement is charmin soft and has no validity. Fighters run a huge risk of infection just by being in the gym training~

                  You get this? staph live in dank places like gyms that are not really clean, staph that is resistent to antibiotics. Taking blood in a properly cleaned evniroment is less of a risk of infection than training to fight~

                  So how is what these doctors are sayin is anythign mroe than an excuse.


                  Come stronger if you want to come see me.
                  Yes, I do know what staff is, as I have had it a number of times in the past. You see, I have actually trained and fought before. And while I had merely a short run in amateur boxing, I have done quite well in other sports, especially wrestling and judo, in each case, training in gyms and combating infection from time to time.

                  Nevertheless, I was merely going off the information presented in the article. Oh and by the way, do you suggest it is prudent for a person to submit themselves to additional risk when approaching any situation, let alone a championship-level boxing match, the likes to which, irregardless of the fantasy world you may live in, you could not possibly relate?

                  Again, I have never opposed the tests on the grounds of principle. I merely have questions about motive in regards to Floyd and his team. The tests have been used as basically nothing other than a negotiating ploy and a tool for vitriol, and possibly a means for Floyd to avoid the fight.

                  I'll ask again, do you truly believe that Floyd is "trying to clean up boxing?"

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                  • The Gambler1981
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                    #409
                    Originally posted by Nodogoshi
                    I said jack **** to which you felt so compelled to respond?

                    And nice use of the strawman there.

                    For one thing, I was referring to the arguments of the article, not necessarily saying that I either agree or disagree. I'm not a doctor, fancy that. I do have the capability to read an article however, and understand what it is that is being written about, unlike fully 90%+ of this forum, in which yourself is apparently included.

                    I'll ask you this, do you truly believe that Mayweather is merely trying to "clean up the sport"? Do you really buy into the position that this is not a negotiating tactic?
                    I read the article and the first thing I though was that is an excuse and not a good point. You obviously didn't, anything I read I form an opinion about almost immediately unless it was really profound, which this was not it was simple and not even really scientific.

                    No **** you can get infection from needles? Who the **** does not know that? They should be doing their jobs to make sure that **** doesn't happean but that is no reason to not do testing.

                    As for cleaning up the sport I am sure Mayweather would like his name attached with such a thing going forward, it leads to being remembered in a positive light. As for being a rah rah leader for the subject, boxing is a very fractured sport and while someone needs to probably be in the lead vocally for it to be changes Floyd is probably not the best person other than being recognizeable.

                    Every journey starts with a first step and Floyd is helping to make those first steps happean.


                    Try again.
                    Last edited by The Gambler1981; 06-10-2010, 02:27 PM.

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                    • JAB5239
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                      #410
                      Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                      I still think that is foolish because this **** needs to be ended, I am positive Floyd is not going to end it (and even if he does that really doesn't stop people talking like this).

                      To me it is on Manny to end this since he pretty much started this circus (by saying no, you can go further back but to me the real start of the circus begins with manny saying no) but still even if you disagree on the start really the only person with the power to end the situation is Manny.
                      Well, I still disagree here but I don't want to get into a pissing contest with you. We've disagreed in the past, we'll disagree again. But I've learned to respect your opinions and knowledge. To keep going would only invite more flaming. If you want though, PM me and we can pick it up from there in a respectful manner.

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