Any ATG from Middle Weight to LightHeavy Weight Vs Prime RJJ

[Khmelnytsky]

So Jones walks through
Charles
Moore
Tunney
Langford
Spinks
Foster
Greb
Conn
Loughran
Monzon
Cerdan
Robinson
Tiger
Hagler
Walker
Steele
right you're an idiot.

It would have been nice to see him vs guys around his own era like Benn, Nunn, Mcclellan(who beat Roy as an amateur) non ancient Mccallum, in shape Toney, Michalczewski, etc.

Hell i know his career is far from over but what about Dawson. I can imagine him presenting Roy problems.

[lfc19titles]

LOL Calzaghe is the best example of a duck, picking on old fighters past their prime, Calzaghe was not shot, dont pretend that he had a career fighting the best of the best he didn't fight hardly anybody worth mentioning besides jeff lacy and kessler. He would have got smoke attempting to move to heavyweight to fight Chris Byrd yes I said it, Byrd and Ruiz would have starched Calzaghe's punk ass worse than that weak ass ******* so move on with your worthless as comebacks. Ur fighters over there suck and you know it, they have no rhythm and they do nothing but fight over the hill fighters so the truth hurts I know.

you know nout if you think calzaghe wasnt shot. the fact I can admit calzaghe didnt have many big fights but the reason was nobody gave him a chance. the fact you cant admit the truth about roy jones shows how defensive you are which means its the truth. people always defend themselves to the hill rather than admitting the truth

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Shall I bring up the policemen and the tough guys he ducked?

Calzaghe beat the sht out of jones, calzaghe was shot as well remember? roy got in one lucky punched and then got beaten for the rest of the round.

You americans are funny with your overhyping of roy jones, truth hurts I guess. Calzaghe won easily 11 rounds vs roy jones, 12 if he didnt get dropped as he made him his ***** for the rest of the round.

I know calzaghe didnt fight top guys in his prime because he couldnt get the big fights, not his fault people like hopkins pulled out of fights against him in 02

Calzaghe is open for to straight rights like an Essex girl is open to foreign ****, no luck in that punch.

I am born and raised in Europe with partly similar heritage to JC.

Prime Jones beats him, it's as easy as that.

[Devils Advocate]

So Jones walks through
Charles
Moore
Tunney
Langford
Spinks
Foster
Greb
Conn
Loughran
Monzon
Cerdan
Robinson
Tiger
Hagler
Walker
Steele
right you're an idiot.

It would have been nice to see him vs guys around his own era like Benn, Nunn, Mcclellan(who beat Roy as an amateur) non ancient Mccallum, in shape Toney, Michalczewski, etc.

Hell i know his career is far from over but what about Dawson. I can imagine him presenting Roy problems.

Chad Dawson walks through any 40 year old but he almost got taken out by Glen Johnson. Chad Dawson reminds me of Derick Harmon and Eric Harding they were both bigger than Jones but quit in the 10th round. That list you composed is nice and thats he might not have been undefeated fighting all of them but thats my point it's no fault of he was man of their era's. I just feel he was the greatest of his era, not nessassarily better than all of them guy b/c they all had a punchers chance and any fighter can have a bad day at the office lol. Some of these guy would have required a hell of lot more than superior hand speed and quick reflexes b/c they all had massive amounts of heart, skill, and determination

[Khmelnytsky]

Chad Dawson walks through any 40 year old but he almost got taken out by Glen Johnson. Chad Dawson reminds me of Derick Harmon and Eric Harding they were both bigger than Jones but quit in the 10th round. That list you composed is nice and thats he might not have been undefeated fighting all of them but thats my point it's no fault of he was man of their era's. I just feel he was the greatest of his era, not nessassarily better than all of them guy b/c they all had a punchers chance and any fighter can have a bad day at the office lol. Some of these guy would have required a hell of lot more than superior hand speed and quick reflexes b/c they all had massive amounts of heart, skill, and determination

Pretty fair all and all.

- his talent is deserving of the best of his era label. What i dont like and i assume some others is his lack of willingness to test that talent. He took the easy road pretty much his whole career.

- the last thing you said is why in spite of his talent i have trouble putting him with ATG's. Most of the guys on that list proved those attributes you listed, time and time again for most. Roy didn't have to endure much adversity and didn't challenge himself.

[Devils Advocate]

you know nout if you think calzaghe wasnt shot. the fact I can admit calzaghe didnt have many big fights but the reason was nobody gave him a chance. the fact you cant admit the truth about roy jones shows how defensive you are which means its the truth. people always defend themselves to the hill rather than admitting the truth

Joe Calzaghe didn't give himself a chance. When you know there is a guy out their the whole world recognizes u go on a seek and destroy mission to get to him. He probably said he would fight him but it ain't like he confronted Jones or had his promoter get serious or make a case. But you don't fight him 10 years later and pretend its a major accomplishment, thats why we laught at good ol Danny Green, a guy that got beat by good ol Anthony Mundine and promotes himself as the man who KO'd jones in the first round.

[oaklandstephen]

Bob Foster and Michael Spinks.

lol no they couldnt

[oaklandstephen]

So Jones walks through
Charles
Moore
Tunney
Langford
Spinks
Foster
Greb
Conn
Loughran
Monzon
Cerdan
Robinson
Tiger
Hagler
Walker
Steele
right you're an idiot.

It would have been nice to see him vs guys around his own era like Benn, Nunn, Mcclellan(who beat Roy as an amateur) non ancient Mccallum, in shape Toney, Michalczewski, etc.

Hell i know his career is far from over but what about Dawson. I can imagine him presenting Roy problems.

roy could definitely beat those dudes he may have had trouble with hagler and robinson but i believe he could have beaten him.

[Devils Advocate]

Pretty fair all and all.

- his talent is deserving of the best of his era label. What i dont like and i assume some others is his lack of willingness to test that talent. He took the easy road pretty much his whole career.

- the last thing you said is why in spite of his talent i have trouble putting him with ATG's. Most of the guys on that list proved those attributes you listed, time and time again for most. Roy didn't have to endure much adversity and didn't challenge himself.

I can respect that, I'll admit that Roy has to be held accountable as well. He could have and should have jumped his ass on a plane and went over to Europe to prove his skills went further than in the states alone. As a youngster I didn't think he had to but when I'm met with other students of the game such as yourself it forces me to realize there were other fighters out there that could he could have cemented his legacy with. I think that is where a good promoter would have served him well. I don't get why everyone has to get older to understand this, even fighters I guess. When Roy signed to fight Joe Calzaghe I hoped that Calzaghe didn't hurt him b/c I never understood why Roy continued to keep on after the Glen Johnson fight. I seriously thought he had severe brain damage b/c he was out on his back with his eyes open for a long time. I actually respected Joe Calzaghe b/c we all know he kind of took a break on Roy Jones I'll admit it, I thought he could have hurt him if he wanted to but I don't think he had the heart to do it.

[Devils Advocate]

roy could definitely beat those dudes he may have had trouble with hagler and robinson but i believe he could have beaten him.

I remember Bernard Hopkins saying, he was in disbelief at alot of the things Roy Jones could do in the ring, but then he said one day he will get a little older and i'll be waiting lol lol good ol Hopkins what a rotten bastard lol. Hopkins aint ashamed to beat ur ass in a casket