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  • JAB5239
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    #121
    Originally posted by Bhopreign
    I also said today's fighters, I wasnt around in 1970 either.
    Ahh I get it, you just want to do a p4p list of fighters from today. Go ahead. Very bold and daring! I guess 1990 and up is out of the question, right?

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    • Thread Stealer
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      #122
      Originally posted by El C@cique@PR
      This is not Bert Sugars List!
      Yes, but I dislike Bert Sugar.

      I do not dislike you.

      Therefore, he is a ****sucker for ridiculously not having Spinks in his top 100, but you are not a ****sucker.

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      • Bhopreign
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        #123
        Originally posted by JAB5239
        Ahh I get it, you just want to do a p4p list of fighters from today. Go ahead. Very bold and daring! I guess 1990 and up is out of the question, right?
        I could do one from 1990 and up, would take more thinking than Im willing to put into it tonight though. For someone so into lists, youve yet to post any tonight, I wouldnt scrutinize it, Ive seen you discredit good fighters so...

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        • JAB5239
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          #124
          Originally posted by Bhopreign
          I could do one from 1990 and up, would take more thinking than Im willing to put into it tonight though. For someone so into lists, youve yet to post any tonight, I wouldnt scrutinize it, Ive seen you discredit good fighters so...
          I ain't scared, I'll give you a top 10 p4p list off the top of my head.

          SRR
          Greb
          Armstong
          Langford
          B. Leonard
          Charles
          Pep
          Duran
          Leonard
          Ross

          This of course is never final. SRR is the only one who stays in the same place all the time. That may change the more I learn about Greb and Armstrong though.

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          • JAB5239
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            #125
            Originally posted by Bhopreign
            I could do one from 1990 and up, would take more thinking than Im willing to put into it tonight though. For someone so into lists, youve yet to post any tonight, I wouldnt scrutinize it, Ive seen you discredit good fighters so...
            I'll be back in a couple hours. Hope you have a list by than.

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            • Fighting Marine
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              #126
              Originally posted by JAB5239
              I ain't scared, I'll give you a top 10 p4p list off the top of my head.

              SRR
              Greb
              Armstong
              Langford
              B. Leonard
              Charles
              Pep
              Duran
              Leonard
              Ross

              This of course is never final. SRR is the only one who stays in the same place all the time. That may change the more I learn about Greb and Armstrong though.
              Interesting to note you have 2 ***ish fighters in ur list....

              hey i'm just saying

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              • dorruel2.0
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                #127
                Originally posted by JAB5239
                Just to clarify, are you talking about Bhopreign or the TS?
                bhop rein -_-

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                • RayLeonard82
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                  #128
                  Roy Jones barely loses a round for like 10 years and not even in the top 50. I remember a point Roy made back in 1998 when he was talking about the 1980s. He said those fights were great because the other had a weakness the other could exploit which made it a entertaining fight. Roy said i have no weaknesses to exploit so i make great fighters look mediocre.

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                  • trk
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                    #129
                    It seems like a lot of the recent fighters are underrated. Modern professional boxing has only been around for about 100 years, so you would expect to have approximately 1 top 10 boxer and 2 top 20 boxers each decade. In the 1990s, Roy Jones Jr. was voted Fighter of the Decade (although you can make an argument that Pernell Whitaker deserved to win it more) and he also had some significant accomplishments in the early 2000s. Mayweather and Pacquiao have clearly been the top 2 boxers of the last 10 years, and both have some unique accomplishments. Pacquiao is the only fighter ever to win major world titles in 7 weight classes. Mayweather is the only fighter to ever win titles in 5 weight classes without losing a fight. Logically, you would expect Jones Jr., Mayweather, and Pacquiao to all be ranked in the top 20 all time, but in the OP's list all of them are outside the top 20 with Jones Jr. all the way down at #71.

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                    • RayLeonard82
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                      #130
                      Good point. I think ppl just sometimes favor the older era even though the guy in the new era might possibly whip the guy from the older era in his same weight class.

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