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Again, what you say means squat. I don't know who picked who to win. What I do kNOW is that the TS and many others cried and moaned that Floyd would NEVER fight Shane and blah, blah. He dominates the guy, then the win basically means nothing. Its typical on here, nothing new. Wait till he beats Manny....I see the excuses already.
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Everyone knows this..
Even the media talks about his less then stellar opponents..
Floyd = #1 Cherrypickers...
when finally a real challenges comes up .. He retires.. this is not the first time too.
he did it with Cotto.. now he doing it with Pac..Comment
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I still don't get how Floyd retired to avoid Cotto and Margarito, those fights were straight up not on the table at that point and he could have fought Oscar for easy money then retired if that was his aim.
You can ***** at him for retiring but damn there ain't no way those guys had anything to do with him retiring~Comment
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What is so funny is, I can post your own comments Pullcounter to make you contradict yourself.
But why bother.. Your Head is not even something I went on my plate.
good luck on the thread.
HORUS BODY COUNT:Note: Some Poster Names I am not posting on this list because I have come to respect them now..
SHADYfIZZLE: (How will he recover from this??)
Reservation : (never posted again after that)
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SIN CITY: Banned http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...ED#post3054217
KING: Banned
Wiley Hyena: (This OWNING is classic and Totally Worth it)
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...ED#post5037965
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LOL!! With so many posts from regular posters..........everybody gets owned once or a few times....Why are you so proud of this? Half of them were nobodies anyway.
Where's that thread you started about Pac is not a FOTD but "most improved fighter of the decade". That was self-ownage Horus....let me bump it again.
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Cool, I can accept your opinion. I won't even take the time to pick Pacs resume apart.Firstly this is not a thread intended to incite a ***** v ******* war.
I am simply giving my opinion on the matter and putting it on the record so ppl know where i stand. I would appreciate some intelligent responses and/or rebuttals (i'm asking alot i know).
IMO....and it's not a popular one on here, Floyd has cherrypicked all his fights after JLC.
at 135 lbs he fought Sosa and Ndou. decent fighters but nothing that would make him an all time 135 lber.
at 140 lbs he fought Corley, Brusseles, and Gatti. Considering 140 lbs was stacked, this was a pretty weak run. Again, nothing floyd has done in this division screams 140 lbs ATG.
at 147 lbs he fought Mitchell, Judah, and Baldomir. Mitchell (who floyd could've beaten at 140 lbs) was a tune up. Judah was a grudge match. Baldomir was for the lineal title. All decent scraps, but the dangerous fights were against margarito and cotto. Again, none of these boxers make floyd an ATG WW.
Then floyd got his dlh payday at 154 lbs. DLH was past his prime but still a good boxer and floyd got a SD. This is what it was all about for floyd, getting the DLH fight.
Instead of fighting the best at WW, floyd calls up hatton, who had previously been chased from 147 lbs by Luis Collazo. This was a good fight... at 140 lbs.
Then floyd retired for 2 years to duck cotto, margo, and mosley, letting them bash their brains in.
Finally returning to boxing, he fought a blown up lightweight JMM and failed to make 144 lbs (the contracted weight).
Next he fought an old 38 year old Mosley. I'm glad Mosley got the payday, but like floyd already said himself: "we know mosley gets tired." (probably because he's 38 years old).
In the past I have excused this cherrypicking because I thought once he got the DLH payday, he'd start fighting who the fans wanted him to fight. Nobody wanted the JMM fight. the hatton fight was best at 140 lbs. the mosley fight should've happened a decade ago.
Now I'm not saying floyd isn't a great fighter or an ATG fighter. I can't deny the skills, but does his resume prove this? I don't know. based on this resume, I can't honestly put him on the level of duran, srl, haggler or hearns.
If he and May fight and May wins will cherry picking be a factor in his legacy???
I will say this, if Pac submitts OSTs and wins there will be no question of his greatness IMO...Comment
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Firstly this is not a thread intended to incite a ***** v ******* war. I am simply giving my opinion on the matter and putting it on the record so ppl know where i stand. I would appreciate some intelligent responses and/or rebuttals (i'm asking alot i know).
IMO....and it's not a popular one on here, Floyd has cherrypicked all his fights after JLC.
at 135 lbs he fought Sosa and Ndou. decent fighters but nothing that would make him an all time 135 lber.
at 140 lbs he fought Corley, Brusseles, and Gatti. Considering 140 lbs was stacked, this was a pretty weak run. Again, nothing floyd has done in this division screams 140 lbs ATG.
at 147 lbs he fought Mitchell, Judah, and Baldomir. Mitchell (who floyd could've beaten at 140 lbs) was a tune up. Judah was a grudge match. Baldomir was for the lineal title. All decent scraps, but the dangerous fights were against margarito and cotto. Again, none of these boxers make floyd an ATG WW.
Then floyd got his dlh payday at 154 lbs. DLH was past his prime but still a good boxer and floyd got a SD. This is what it was all about for floyd, getting the DLH fight.
Instead of fighting the best at WW, floyd calls up hatton, who had previously been chased from 147 lbs by Luis Collazo. This was a good fight... at 140 lbs.
Then floyd retired for 2 years to duck cotto, margo, and mosley, letting them bash their brains in.
Finally returning to boxing, he fought a blown up lightweight JMM and failed to make 144 lbs (the contracted weight).
Next he fought an old 38 year old Mosley. I'm glad Mosley got the payday, but like floyd already said himself: "we know mosley gets tired." (probably because he's 38 years old).
In the past I have excused this cherrypicking because I thought once he got the DLH payday, he'd start fighting who the fans wanted him to fight. Nobody wanted the JMM fight. the hatton fight was best at 140 lbs. the mosley fight should've happened a decade ago.
Now I'm not saying floyd isn't a great fighter or an ATG fighter. I can't deny the skills, but does his resume prove this? I don't know. based on this resume, I can't honestly put him on the level of duran, srl, haggler or hearns.
great objective post.....i give him DLH as well...........but the performance was subpar........some *****s think people who criticize floyds record ..........you a hater by default..................not thinking they might actually be former fans...........
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you like most don't understand the business side of boxing
Mayweather left Arum, why in the **** would Arum turnaround and do business with Mayweather after he left him and Top Rank? you guys use no logic you just post your opinions and try to turn into facts and try to make everyone believe it
Mayweather turned down the $8 million fight with Margarito with a much bigger payday in mind, it had nothing to do with being "Afraid of Margarito" the ultimate plan was to fight Oscar for an even BIGGER payday which end up happening, Arum told Mayweather when he was with Top Rank that he wasn't going to do business with Oscar because this was after or during the time when Oscar and Arum was middle of a Lawsuit, so Mayweather paid $700k+ to get out of his deal with Top Rank to eventually set up Oscar vs Mayweather
the fight with Oscar elevated Mayweather into the Cash Cow that he is now, so if you want to call that "Ducking" then fine but no one can say that it wasn't a good business move in the long run
not only that but Cotto and Hatton was ring side when Mayweather dismantled the late Gatti, I did not hear any of those guys calling him out then, Margarito called Mayweather out and Mayweather told him to keep winning and they will fight, but then Margarito turned around and lost to relatively unknown Paul Williams at the time which ruined that match up
bottom line, Cotto and Margarito vs Mayweather did not happen because Arum been and still holds a personal grudge against Floyd for leaving him and Top Rank
if you do your research you will see that Mayweather haven't done business with Arum and Top Rank since leaving them, if Cotto and Margarito was with different promoters other then Arum then those fight would have happened, if Cotto and Margarito was with GOLDEN BOY PROMOTIONS then those fights would have happened
REALISTICALLY! Margarito and Cotto back then couldn't beat Mayweather and I don't think they can beat him now, but Mayweather is in a Lose/Lose situation because even if he fights them now people (like the guy that started this post) will say "Well he waited until they got old" even though Mayweather is older then both of them lol
many of you guys are just looking at the "In Ring Aspect" of boxing but a lot of times we don't get the fights we want to see because of the BUSINESS ASPECT" of boxing, Oscar vs Cotto and Oscar vs Margarito would have never happened either even IF Oscar wanted those fights because again Arum wasn't going to do business with OscarLast edited by sicko; 06-08-2010, 02:45 PM.Comment
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i think he takes advantages on his opponent, either fighting old opponents or demanding something that could put them at disadvantageComment
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You're talking about yourself right?
"trust me".
"TW only makes threads about Mayweather"
*TW pulls up over 10 threads with nothing to do about Floyd*
*assistant coach takes some time off from boxingscene hoping everyone forgot about the raping he received*
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