Why I believe Floyd is a cherrypicker

[sicko]

147 is a welterweight bout, not a catchweight.

So, where are all of these other catchweights at? You said he fought most of his opponents at catchweights, and all you can do is bring up one legit example?

Turrrible.


Why didn't Margarito fight Paul again?

Paul declined, even after Margarito petitioned the WBO for an immediate rematch. So you tell me,

why didn't Paul want the rematch?

again basically that WAS a catch weight for Oscar since Oscar haven't fought at 147 in YEARS at that time, he agreed to go down in weight become Manny was as smaller guy, OK so maybe I shouldn't say catchweight then, I will say Oscar went down in weight and Drained himself...is that better? that is still giving Manny an advantage

as for Paul Williams turning down Margarito rematch BULL****! here is proof from this very site:

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=15237

once again the BUSINESS OF BOXING, guys love to accuse the Boxers of ducking when it is actually their promoters making the decisions, Dan Goossen offered Margarito $4 Million for the rematch and Arum never replied with a answer, then when he finally did the said he was looking to match Margarito up with the winner of Clottey vs Judah which end up being Cottley

so who is REALLY ducking who? and I have seen him talk about Cotto lately but I haven't heard him mention Mosley either

[Vasyl’s dad]

again basically that WAS a catch weight for Oscar since Oscar haven't fought at 147 in YEARS at that time, he agreed to go down in weight become Manny was as smaller guy, OK so maybe I shouldn't say catchweight then, I will say Oscar went down in weight and Drained himself...is that better? that is still giving Manny an advantage

as for Paul Williams turning down Margarito rematch BULL****! here is proof from this very site:

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=15237

once again the BUSINESS OF BOXING, guys love to accuse the Boxers of ducking when it is actually their promoters making the decisions, Dan Goossen offered Margarito $4 Million for the rematch and Arum never replied with a answer, then when he finally did the said he was looking to match Margarito up with the winner of Clottey vs Judah which end up being Cottley

so who is REALLY ducking who? and I have seen him talk about Cotto lately but I haven't heard him mention Mosley either

Oscars previous fight was at 150. He was already planning to get down to 147.

and Paul declined the immediate rematch, not Tony.

Don't forget who Pauls advisor is,

the same guy who makes the excuses for Floyd.

[Gutz]

no dumbass 145 WAS the catchweight for Cotto vs Pacman so WTF are you talking about

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4653029

"Though the fight will be for a piece of the welterweight title, it is being held at 145 pounds at the insistence of Pacquiao's camp because Cotto is a natural 147-pounder and Pacquiao has fought only once above 140 pounds."

and fighting Oscar at 147 was a catch weight FOR Oscar at that time since he was fighting at 154 for years

your the one that don't know **** about boxing

WTF you talking about dumb ***... I already said that Pac fought at 1 catchweight.. which is the cotto fight.


But your crying ass is the one saying Oscar at WW is a catchweight..

Lets also not forget that Pac had to move up 2 weight classes to make 147 and everyone favored Oscar to win..

Might as well delete your account dumb ****..

you know nothing about boxing..

[johnm is...]

Manny gets credit for a win over Oscar at 147, and Mayweather gets no credit for a win over Mosley.

You guys are a joke.

[bdevils]

27 out of 30 Ring Magazine analysts picked Floyd to win the fight. All 27 sited Suger's age and long lay off as the reason they were picking Floyd to win. So no this isn't some magical excuse that suddenly fell from the sky the second Floyde beat Shane.

Damn near half this board was saying Floyd would never fight Shane. Or did conviently forget about that?

[RoyJonesJrp4pno1]

Firstly this is not a thread intended to incite a ***** v ******* war. I am simply giving my opinion on the matter and putting it on the record so ppl know where i stand. I would appreciate some intelligent responses and/or rebuttals (i'm asking alot i know).

IMO....and it's not a popular one on here, Floyd has cherrypicked all his fights after JLC.

at 135 lbs he fought Sosa and Ndou. decent fighters but nothing that would make him an all time 135 lber.

at 140 lbs he fought Corley, Brusseles, and Gatti. Considering 140 lbs was stacked, this was a pretty weak run. Again, nothing floyd has done in this division screams 140 lbs ATG.

at 147 lbs he fought Mitchell, Judah, and Baldomir. Mitchell (who floyd could've beaten at 140 lbs) was a tune up. Judah was a grudge match. Baldomir was for the lineal title. All decent scraps, but the dangerous fights were against margarito and cotto. Again, none of these boxers make floyd an ATG WW.

Then floyd got his dlh payday at 154 lbs. DLH was past his prime but still a good boxer and floyd got a SD. This is what it was all about for floyd, getting the DLH fight.

Instead of fighting the best at WW, floyd calls up hatton, who had previously been chased from 147 lbs by Luis Collazo. This was a good fight... at 140 lbs.

Then floyd retired for 2 years to duck cotto, margo, and mosley, letting them bash their brains in.

Finally returning to boxing, he fought a blown up lightweight JMM and failed to make 144 lbs (the contracted weight).

Next he fought an old 38 year old Mosley. I'm glad Mosley got the payday, but like floyd already said himself: "we know mosley gets tired." (probably because he's 38 years old).

In the past I have excused this cherrypicking because I thought once he got the DLH payday, he'd start fighting who the fans wanted him to fight. Nobody wanted the JMM fight. the hatton fight was best at 140 lbs. the mosley fight should've happened a decade ago.

Now I'm not saying floyd isn't a great fighter or an ATG fighter. I can't deny the skills, but does his resume prove this? I don't know. based on this resume, I can't honestly put him on the level of duran, srl, haggler or hearns.

Mosley didn't get tired when he was beating up plasterrito.

[bayareamike]

lol *****s will be butthurt by the facts.

[Kingstan315]

the reason i think this thread is not generating alot of passion from both sides is because this is a toppic that does not truley effect this bout being made...

[sicko]

WTF you talking about dumb ***... I already said that Pac fought at 1 catchweight.. which is the cotto fight.


But your crying ass is the one saying Oscar at WW is a catchweight..

Lets also not forget that Pac had to move up 2 weight classes to make 147 and everyone favored Oscar to win..

Might as well delete your account dumb ****..

you know nothing about boxing..

like I said in the other post, ok maybe I shouldn't call it a catchweight fight but a few of his opponents was DRAINED

delete my account for what? we are discussing boxing you LAME stop taking this **** so serious, this **** means nothing, at the end of the day just a bunch of guys with no faces talking about the sport they love

[sicko]

Manny gets credit for a win over Oscar at 147, and Mayweather gets no credit for a win over Mosley.

You guys are a joke.

EXACTLY! it is just a double standard when it comes to Mayweather