Why I believe Floyd is a cherrypicker

**Verstyle** · 06-08-2010, 09:31 AM

**Vadrigar.** · 06-08-2010, 09:37 AM

just refer to my sig.

**M.I Truth ?** · 06-08-2010, 09:39 AM

Originally posted by Pullcounter

Firstly this is not a thread intended to incite a ***** v ******* war.

I am simply giving my opinion on the matter and putting it on the record so ppl know where i stand. I would appreciate some intelligent responses and/or rebuttals (i'm asking alot i know).

IMO....and it's not a popular one on here, Floyd has cherrypicked all his fights after JLC.

at 135 lbs he fought Sosa and Ndou. decent fighters but nothing that would make him an all time 135 lber.

at 140 lbs he fought Corley, Brusseles, and Gatti. Considering 140 lbs was stacked, this was a pretty weak run. Again, nothing floyd has done in this division screams 140 lbs ATG.

at 147 lbs he fought Mitchell, Judah, and Baldomir. Mitchell (who floyd could've beaten at 140 lbs) was a tune up. Judah was a grudge match. Baldomir was for the lineal title. All decent scraps, but the dangerous fights were against margarito and cotto. Again, none of these boxers make floyd an ATG WW.

Then floyd got his dlh payday at 154 lbs. DLH was past his prime but still a good boxer and floyd got a SD. This is what it was all about for floyd, getting the DLH fight.

Instead of fighting the best at WW, floyd calls up hatton, who had previously been chased from 147 lbs by Luis Collazo. This was a good fight... at 140 lbs.

Then floyd retired for 2 years to duck cotto, margo, and mosley, letting them bash their brains in.

Finally returning to boxing, he fought a blown up lightweight JMM and failed to make 144 lbs (the contracted weight).

Next he fought an old 38 year old Mosley. I'm glad Mosley got the payday, but like floyd already said himself: "we know mosley gets tired." (probably because he's 38 years old).

In the past I have excused this cherrypicking because I thought once he got the DLH payday, he'd start fighting who the fans wanted him to fight. Nobody wanted the JMM fight. the hatton fight was best at 140 lbs. the mosley fight should've happened a decade ago.

Now I'm not saying floyd isn't a great fighter or an ATG fighter. I can't deny the skills, but does his resume prove this? I don't know. based on this resume, I can't honestly put him on the level of duran, srl, haggler or hearns.

In September he was afraid of Mosley and knew he would lose to him apparently. How perspective changes over the course of a couple months.

**rambov** · 06-08-2010, 09:45 AM

If by cherry picking you mean only choosing fights that produce big checks then yes!

PAC is also a cherry picker. So is every other boxer.

**apokalips** · 06-08-2010, 09:46 AM

You have to take into account that Hatton wanted him at 147, but wanted no part of him after the Gatti fight. Cotto also didn't particularly want it at 140. Cotto had a fight with Mosley within a month of Floyd vs Hatton, so the only real time I'd say that Mayweather v Cotto should have happend is after the Hatton and Mosley fights.

Margarito I don't take seriously, because he only really exploded when Floyd had become massive and was bowing out.

Mosley is deemed to be a tough task for Mayweather, yet Mayweathers team tried to make the fight happen a few times (Jack Mosley asking for 10 million guarantee etc) so that wouldn't have been cherrypicking. I don't believe Mayweather has cherrypicked anywhere close to the way people say. The only barren run he had was his Sosa, Brusseles and Mitchells really.

**rambov** · 06-08-2010, 09:48 AM

BTW Mosely still beats Cotto if they fought tomorrow. Mag is a given!

**check hook** · 06-08-2010, 09:49 AM

Originally posted by Pullcounter

Firstly this is not a thread intended to incite a ***** v ******* war.

I am simply giving my opinion on the matter and putting it on the record so ppl know where i stand. I would appreciate some intelligent responses and/or rebuttals (i'm asking alot i know).

IMO....and it's not a popular one on here, Floyd has cherrypicked all his fights after JLC.

at 135 lbs he fought Sosa and Ndou. decent fighters but nothing that would make him an all time 135 lber.

at 140 lbs he fought Corley, Brusseles, and Gatti. Considering 140 lbs was stacked, this was a pretty weak run. Again, nothing floyd has done in this division screams 140 lbs ATG.

at 147 lbs he fought Mitchell, Judah, and Baldomir. Mitchell (who floyd could've beaten at 140 lbs) was a tune up. Judah was a grudge match. Baldomir was for the lineal title. All decent scraps, but the dangerous fights were against margarito and cotto. Again, none of these boxers make floyd an ATG WW.

Then floyd got his dlh payday at 154 lbs. DLH was past his prime but still a good boxer and floyd got a SD. This is what it was all about for floyd, getting the DLH fight.

Instead of fighting the best at WW, floyd calls up hatton, who had previously been chased from 147 lbs by Luis Collazo. This was a good fight... at 140 lbs.

Then floyd retired for 2 years to duck cotto, margo, and mosley, letting them bash their brains in.

Finally returning to boxing, he fought a blown up lightweight JMM and failed to make 144 lbs (the contracted weight).

Next he fought an old 38 year old Mosley. I'm glad Mosley got the payday, but like floyd already said himself: "we know mosley gets tired." (probably because he's 38 years old).

In the past I have excused this cherrypicking because I thought once he got the DLH payday, he'd start fighting who the fans wanted him to fight. Nobody wanted the JMM fight. the hatton fight was best at 140 lbs. the mosley fight should've happened a decade ago.

Now I'm not saying floyd isn't a great fighter or an ATG fighter. I can't deny the skills, but does his resume prove this? I don't know. based on this resume, I can't honestly put him on the level of duran, srl, haggler or hearns.

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c'mon pull.....last time reed had to step in for you........carrying a chip on your shoulder still..........it's ok...PM Akyra.....i'm sure he can provide a shoulder for you to cry on.........

i like the opening paragraph

**Horus** · 06-08-2010, 09:49 AM

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**Spacey1991** · 06-08-2010, 09:50 AM

Originally posted by Pullcounter

Firstly this is not a thread intended to incite a ***** v ******* war.

I am simply giving my opinion on the matter and putting it on the record so ppl know where i stand. I would appreciate some intelligent responses and/or rebuttals (i'm asking alot i know).

IMO....and it's not a popular one on here, Floyd has cherrypicked all his fights after JLC.

at 135 lbs he fought Sosa and Ndou. decent fighters but nothing that would make him an all time 135 lber.

at 140 lbs he fought Corley, Brusseles, and Gatti. Considering 140 lbs was stacked, this was a pretty weak run. Again, nothing floyd has done in this division screams 140 lbs ATG.

at 147 lbs he fought Mitchell, Judah, and Baldomir. Mitchell (who floyd could've beaten at 140 lbs) was a tune up. Judah was a grudge match. Baldomir was for the lineal title. All decent scraps, but the dangerous fights were against margarito and cotto. Again, none of these boxers make floyd an ATG WW.

Then floyd got his dlh payday at 154 lbs. DLH was past his prime but still a good boxer and floyd got a SD. This is what it was all about for floyd, getting the DLH fight.

Instead of fighting the best at WW, floyd calls up hatton, who had previously been chased from 147 lbs by Luis Collazo. This was a good fight... at 140 lbs.

Then floyd retired for 2 years to duck cotto, margo, and mosley, letting them bash their brains in.

Finally returning to boxing, he fought a blown up lightweight JMM and failed to make 144 lbs (the contracted weight).

Next he fought an old 38 year old Mosley. I'm glad Mosley got the payday, but like floyd already said himself: "we know mosley gets tired." (probably because he's 38 years old).

In the past I have excused this cherrypicking because I thought once he got the DLH payday, he'd start fighting who the fans wanted him to fight. Nobody wanted the JMM fight. the hatton fight was best at 140 lbs. the mosley fight should've happened a decade ago.

Now I'm not saying floyd isn't a great fighter or an ATG fighter. I can't deny the skills, but does his resume prove this? I don't know. based on this resume, I can't honestly put him on the level of duran, srl, haggler or hearns.

Its a counter thread to check hooks, so fair enough... it isn't baiting.

Why I believe Floyd is a cherrypicker