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    #31
    Originally posted by Rudie Cant Fail
    No I wouldnt think that. Nothing has changed to make that deal suddenly unrealistic,and dont even come with that,' But Floyd said this in april ..' bollocks. If a few years had passed and the situation of both fighters had changed,then maybe, but in a four month/1 fight period? That is a f.ucking joke!


    i don't give 2 ****s what he said in April..............700K vs 1.4 million.....boxing is a sport of what have you done for me lately...........


    Or you can do 1.2 mil vs 1.4 mil with a lesser B side and then comprare common opponents (the fairest and most objective way to discern who draws more)..........


    Pac had grounds for 50/50 in March......it was fair.....that's why Floyd had no problems giving it.........

    The bottom line is Pac has to relent down to 45%. He is not in a position to demand 50% anymore.....they know this.....that's why they are on the front foot about the 14 day cut off and are using that as a weapon to attack Floyd in the media (a plot they said they would refrain from).......and it's counterproductive...

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    • nujabes77
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      #32
      Originally posted by JAB5239
      How has it become unrealistic? Can Floyd make more money fighting anyone else? No. Pac has agreed to Floyds request, now Floyd (his fans rather) says that isn't good enough? People need to start putting the sport ahead of the fighter if they want to see the best fights and thats all there is to it.

      pac made the compromise to appease the fans... you think floyd will do the same?

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      • Ray*
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        #33
        Originally posted by Rudie Cant Fail
        No I wouldnt think that. Nothing has changed to make that deal suddenly unrealistic,and dont even come with that,' But Floyd said this in april ..' bollocks. If a few years had passed and the situation of both fighters had changed,then maybe, but in a four month/1 fight period? That is a f.ucking joke!
        You're on the outside looking in so how would you know if things havent change?

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        • JAB5239
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          #34
          Originally posted by check hook
          As usual your posts amount to nothing....... He deserves more money because he has proven time and time again he is a bigger draw. Pac can't dispute that with any evidence. Floyd can point to the fact that he outsold Pac with 3 common oppoents and he also outsold Pac with a lesser b side (im talking Cotto v SSM here)

          Pac is the one who is greedy. He is the one who has a history of difficult negotiations due to his greed.....now he demands 50% which is an unrealistic expectation at this point.

          He's not demanding, but agreeing to. Funny how after only 5 months it is an unreal "expectation" to a fan like yourself. As usual you prove you're a nuthugger and not a fan of the sport.

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          • Rudie Cant Fail
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            #35
            Originally posted by check hook
            i don't give 2 ****s what he said in April..............700K vs 1.4 million.....boxing is a sport of what have you done for me lately...........


            Or you can do 1.2 mil vs 1.4 mil with a lesser B side and then comprare common opponents (the fairest and most objective way to discern who draws more)..........


            Pac had grounds for 50/50 in March......it was fair.....that's why Floyd had no problems giving it.........

            The bottom line is Pac has to relent down to 45%. He is not in a position to demand 50% anymore.....they know this.....that's why they are on the front foot about the 14 day cut off and are using that as a weapon to attack Floyd in the media (a plot they said they would refrain from).......and it's counterproductive...
            I give up. If Floyd said the sun was green or water was dry, you would agree with it.

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              #36
              Originally posted by JAB5239
              How has it become unrealistic? Can Floyd make more money fighting anyone else? No. Pac has agreed to Floyds request, now Floyd (his fans rather) says that isn't good enough? People need to start putting the sport ahead of the fighter if they want to see the best fights and thats all there is to it.


              1) No......but neither can Pac.....so what is you point? Pac prob can't make $40 mil with someone else, so by your logic he should concede ground.....

              2) The bigger draw always gets more money. Floyd is proven beyond doubt 4 out of 4 times he is the bigger draw.



              Personally from a fan POV i would like him to offer 50% to get it done because i want the fight to happen and i put the sport first.....however if i was in his shoes i would not offer it....

              Manny fans don't put the sport first....they condone PED use, don't support OST and continue with this ridiculous idea that Manny still deserves an equal share of the pie.....???




              someone....anyone....explain to me from a business perspective (that's what a negotiation is) why Pac deserver 50%.......he is 0 for 4 against Floyd........!!!!!

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              • Terrel
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                #37
                Can Floyd make more money fighting anyone else? No
                Thats what you said. Can you give an answer for what I wrote?

                Pac too would earn more money than he ever if he was to fight Floyd even with a 45% deal. So why not accept it? Would you say its greed for him too?

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Rudie Cant Fail
                  I give up. If Floyd said the sun was green or water was dry, you would agree with it.


                  If you know me and have seen my posts you would know no problems criticising Floyd when the situation calls for it.........but Pac's expectations are unrealistic..........and his acceptance of a 14 day cut-off further proves he stymied the fight in March.............

                  it's simple......he is not a bigger draw than FMJ........so WTF is he doing demanding for 50%????? I thought the Hero of Asia doesn't fight for money???


                  The hypocrisy of PAc fans is mind numbing...........

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                  • JAB5239
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Ray*
                    Why are we jumping to conclusion? No one knows if money or split is an issue or cut-off dates, We are all just speculating.. Lets wait and see what happens or if Mayweather has indeed retire.
                    Im all for that Ray, but it seems most Floyd fans don't want this fight unless Floyd renegotiates to get what THEY think is right. Do you have any problem with the "former" deal Pac has recently said he would agree to? Or do you think Floyd should now ask for more? As a fan of the sport I think someone finally giving in to the others demand is a win/win situation for all. Both fighters will make far more money than they could against anyone but each other, and the fans get what they've been clamoring for.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by JAB5239
                      Pac caved first and gave in to Floyds demands for a 14 day cutoff on OST. why than would Floyd want to hold this fight up with newer more stringent demands if he really wants to fight? I see all kinds of excuses from his fans but one thing that ABSOLUTELY has not changed is that no other fight will bring Floyd anywhere near the amount of money he makes with Pac EVEN with the old demands. So either he's greedy and unreasonable or he flat out doesn't want the fight.
                      Uninformed, presumptous and downright ******.

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