Comments Thread For: Pacquiao Continues To Pressure Mayweather To Fight

[CubaRican718]

If your really an unbiased boxing fan you would clearly see who's asking for fairness and who's wanting things their way. Floyd with all his mouth has been extremely fair in trying to make this fight happen. I was disappointed the first time he agreed to 50/50 because he didn't have to but he did. I would lose a little respect for him if he let's Manny get that this time. He has to stand his ground because if it were the other way around Top Rank and Manny would not let anyone get 50/50. Floyd has the far better numbers and far more impressive wins and should be treated like the champion in this fight. Manny is the challenger.

how the fu¢k does floyd have more impressive wins than pacquiao?

[JCaster]

Im a Filipino and a boxing fan. this fight needs to happen. I believe 53-47 in favor of floyd and a 14 day cut off is fair enough for both fighters.

I dont think that the random blood testing was the real issue.. its all about money from day 1. these are all promotions, at the end of the day, pac and floyd will be the richest boxers after they fight.

If floyd will come up with an excuse like retirement.. its plain ducking.

[leegeelee]

Why won't pac test??

WHY WON'T MANNY TAKE THE TEST? Through all the argument , accusation and counter-accusations I have yet to hear that question answered in a plausable way. I have heard that Manny has never tested positive so that puts him above su****ion. But Bin Ladin has never been caught with a bomb. I have heard that he is afraid of needles but he has many tattoos. A teaspoon of blood will weaken him, I just don't believe that. He does'nt want to give in to Floyd's demands; for 40 million dollars!!?? Even if Manny's ego was that big, Arum greed is bigger still.No way Arum lets many screw him out of that much moolah just to spite Floyd. Besides Floyd gave in to the 10 million weight penalty which is unprecedented in boxing. I have heard that Floyd's motive are not to clean up the sport. So what?? What does that have to do with Manny making 40 mil by stepping in the ring. Manny clearly is not concerned with cleaning up the sport. I have heard that Floyd wants to destroy Manny reputation. Obvious solution: take the test. That clears your reputation, gets you 40 mill, you get to kick Mayweather's ass; establish your legacy as an all time great. Thats four great reasons to take the test. All I ask is one plausible reason not to take the same test Mosley took. Which Floyd would also take. Please don't bring me the same reasons I have already dismissed.
Agreeing to take test with any limetations like 14 days, only on Sunday, call before you come, is not RANDOM. I need an answer from someone, anyone;
WHY WON'T MANNY TAKE THE TEST???

[rommel357]

You have to understand buddy, back in March, Pac had just outdrawn Mayweather by a pretty significant amount in their most recent PPV events. Pacquaio-Cotto outdid Mayweather-Marquez by about 150K buys, and that's well over $10M in revenue. So recent PPV success, combine with Mayweather outdoing Pac with common dance partners warrented a 50/50 split, and that's why Mayweather agreed. But now, those dynamics have changed. Like I said before, Mayweather has outdrawn Pac by 500K PPV buys in his return. That's not based solely on their last events. That's based on 4 fights between the two fighters. So in his return, we have have a a great gage of two events apice to see who the bigger draw is, and its Mayweather. So when you look at a fair deal, Pac really doesn't have a leg to stand on when it comes to actual numbers and revenue generated.

As for the ratings, I feel you on following The Ring magazine ratings. Their divisional ratings are pretty much official with me, but, P4P is such a subjective thing that I like to get more than one opinion. And when you get multiple opinions, there is no clear cut P4P King at the moment.

You're actually comparing those two ppv's when Cotto who at that time was still regarded as one of the top WW despite his lost to Marg. There's no secrect that Cotto is by far the more popular fighter and bigger draw than JMM, it's not even a comparison. And yet Manny vs Cotto only beat Floyd vs JMM by 150k. C'mon bro, your reaching. The fact is and all *****s would attest to this, that even before the first negotiations, that Floyd outdraws Manny by a mile, not even close overall. Compare the common fights between the two and you'll see the big difference. Between the fights with DLH and Hatton. Just stop, this argument of yours is weak at best. The fact is that you'll justify Floyd for not making this happen due to the 50/50 split but you would'nt do the same for Manny with the drug test issue. Which is fair IMO because that is your opinion. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

[SCEN3RY]

If your really an unbiased boxing fan you would clearly see who's asking for fairness and who's wanting things their way. Floyd with all his mouth has been extremely fair in trying to make this fight happen. I was disappointed the first time he agreed to 50/50 because he didn't have to but he did. I would lose a little respect for him if he let's Manny get that this time. He has to stand his ground because if it were the other way around Top Rank and Manny would not let anyone get 50/50. Floyd has the far better numbers and far more impressive wins and should be treated like the champion in this fight. Manny is the challenger.

Being an unbiased fan has nothing to do with agreeing with your perceptions.

your sig tells the whole story, I know I can't win an argument with you...

[hitking]

You're actually comparing those two ppv's when Cotto who at that time was still regarded as one of the top WW despite his lost to Marg. There's no secrect that Cotto is by far the more popular fighter and bigger draw than JMM, it's not even a comparison. And yet Manny vs Cotto only beat Floyd vs JMM by 150k. C'mon bro, your reaching. The fact is and all *****s would attest to this, that even before the first negotiations, that Floyd outdraws Manny by a mile, not even close overall. Compare the common fights between the two and you'll see the big difference. Between the fights with DLH and Hatton. Just stop, this argument of yours is weak at best. The fact is that you'll justify Floyd for not making this happen due to the 50/50 split but you would'nt do the same for Manny with the drug test issue. Which is fair IMO because that is your opinion. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

Sorry buddy, you've totally lost me. You seem as if you're saying that Mayweather is clearly the bigger draw, but Pac is justified in asking for a 50/50 split. That doesn't make any sense.

As for the USADA testing, I feel its more of a moral issue than anything else. In any other walk of life, Pac would be labeled an illegal drug user for the stance he's taking. But, its not something he's required to do by the boxing commission, so he has the right to refuse. IMO, he's very fortunate that he's taking this stance againts Mayweather instead of a more popular figure. Because I promise you, if he took this stance with Cotto or someone like that that's a fan favorite, he'd be getting crucified by the media and fans.

[hanzoh74]

I'm bored with people saying Pac fights bigger guys. Yes he started boxing at 106 pounds, he was also 16 then. Guess what, at 16 Floyd was also 106 pounds and had just won a national Golden Gloves championship. I think it was 1993. Manny was born 1 year after Mayweather so please stop the BS. Yes, he fight bigger guys but under conditions that cause them to drain themselves dry. Get real...

we seldom see boxers with the height of Pac fighting at 147 so i agreed to the other guy.....fighters at Pac's size belonged to the 130 and below

[kidrak]

What has Pacquaio accomplished IN THE BOXING RING that Mayweather hasn't?

7 time world champion in 7 different weight division..3 time FOTY..and fighter of the decade...

[dnut17]

Sorry buddy, you've totally lost me. You seem as if you're saying that Mayweather is clearly the bigger draw, but Pac is justified in asking for a 50/50 split. That doesn't make any sense.

As for the USADA testing, I feel its more of a moral issue than anything else. In any other walk of life, Pac would be labeled an illegal drug user for the stance he's taking. But, its not something he's required to do by the boxing commission, so he has the right to refuse. IMO, he's very fortunate that he's taking this stance againts Mayweather instead of a more popular figure. Because I promise you, if he took this stance with Cotto or someone like that that's a fan favorite, he'd be getting crucified by the media and fans.

I've been following your posts and they are money on this topic. There's two trains of thought. One (the more naïve passionate and more emotional side) their argument is more based on dislike of Floyd Mayweather. I.e. Mayweather can't dictate terms, he's making stuff up to avoid Manny etc... The other side says this wouldn't be a bad idea and it would be a good example for commissions and other fighters to follow. In my opinion during arguments the side that resorts to personal attacks and altruism(I.e. Its a moral thing) is either out of touch with reality or is desperate because they have very little to stand on. your point that if Manny was negotiating with a beloved fighter hed be vilified addresses the lack of objectivity. Which is why even though I'm not the biggest fan of either guy I side with the Mayweather fans on this random is only random without a cutoff. However I do think a 50/50 split is fair possibly 52/48 for the winner.

[Laborer]

hahahahahaha i pity you dumbass!! your talking about value??? PACMAN>>>>>>>>>>>gayweather... look at their achievements and award fool!!

so in your twisted dumbass logic, award > skills. your boy pac has a defensive skills of a beauty queen's on fixing a flat tire (no wonder you ejacul8te over awards, you thought boxing is a beauty contest). your boy pac's intelligence manifests in ****** answers and smiles during interviews. your boy pac needed weeks and weeks to prepare for Floyd but reckoned a week of crash course in socio-economic and political issues is enough for his responsibilities in congress. Goodluck with that! and BTW, Marquez schooled your boy twice. Now that's what I call skills! All your boy pac has is his massive left (not even enough to put Clottey down as they promised, or maybe too ****** to find the ***** in Clottey's armour). Very much like a bull, all strength and no brains. Floyd is the matador, but he doesn't want to have anything to do with a ROID bull!

thanks for calling me a fool BTW, considering i was only answering to some else's comment.