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  • Originally posted by rommel357 View Post
    The economics in boxing is not what i'm talking about. I'm simply saying that Floyd agreed to the 50/50 split back then when he was already the bigger draw, and he still is right now, so why changed the 50/50 split if it is still the same predicament right now.
    I personally think a 50/50 split is fair because of PACs international appeal but I can see why May and his camp would ask for more now. The predicament has changed because It was PAC that rejected the fight the first time and since then may has further proved he can outdraw simple as that.

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    • Originally posted by dnut17 View Post
      I've been following your posts and they are money on this topic. There's two trains of thought. One (the more naïve passionate and more emotional side) their argument is more based on dislike of Floyd Mayweather. I.e. Mayweather can't dictate terms, he's making stuff up to avoid Manny etc... The other side says this wouldn't be a bad idea and it would be a good example for commissions and other fighters to follow. In my opinion during arguments the side that resorts to personal attacks and altruism(I.e. Its a moral thing) is either out of touch with reality or is desperate because they have very little to stand on. your point that if Manny was negotiating with a beloved fighter hed be vilified addresses the lack of objectivity. Which is why even though I'm not the biggest fan of either guy I side with the Mayweather fans on this random is only random without a cutoff. However I do think a 50/50 split is fair possibly 52/48 for the winner.
      The reality is, I think the bigger money split should always go to the winner of the fight. Remember, that indeed make boxing PRIZE FIGHTING. That said, its just not the way it is now. Precedent has been set over a couple decades now that the bigger draw recieves the lion's share of the purse in these mega events. And that's all I'm basing by arguements on.

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      • Originally posted by rommel357 View Post
        Dude, you're giving me a ****ing headache. Here we go again for the millionth time. Before the first negotiation and during the first negotiation, Mayweather's camp claimed to be the bigger draw with more ppv #'s but still agreed to the 50/50 split, that's a fact. It is also a fact and i do agree that Mayweather was the bigger draw before the first negotiations, during, and after. Why changed that now if that same situation and claims has not changed. Floyd is still the bigger draw during the first negotiations and he still is the bigger draw right now, during this second negotiations. So what's the excuse and reason to change the split if the situations have not changed.
        If you can't understand that even though Mayweather had previously done bigger numbers, but Pac having the more recent PPV success warrented a 50/50 split, I can't help you. Pac's lone bargaining chip was that his most recent show had outdone Mayweather's most recent. That's no longer the case. And in reality now, Mayweather dominance in drawing power has only become bigger with their respective last events. Its just likt the analogy I made, which seemed to go totally over your head. You only looked at it as employer and employee when that's not the point I was making. I was saying that in life, people's credintals and qualifications change all the time. If your job tells you you'll get a salary increase of 25% if you a X, you'll want that salary increase if you do X and if you don't get it, you'll be pissed. Well in this situation, Mayweather's credintials have changed, therefore the terms have to be renegotiated.

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        • The only reason Mayweather is a draw is because people are anxious to get the **** beaten out of him (because that would be HISTORIC). After that, do you think he would be half the draw that he is now? NO. After that, nobody would pay to see his boring ass.. LIVE.

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          • Originally posted by nachomas4 View Post
            did anyone notice how big Pac's head looked during the cotto/Foreman fight, its huge just like Barry Bonds. It looked slightly bigger than the fighters/ref who were closer to the camera.
            It's even worse up close. Laughably enormous.

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            • Originally posted by dgrouch View Post
              The only reason Mayweather is a draw is because people are anxious to get the **** beaten out of him (because that would be HISTORIC). After that, do you think he would be half the draw that he is now? NO. After that, nobody would pay to see his boring ass.. LIVE.
              This statement is true, to an extent. Problem is, it doesn't help Pac's side in these negotiations. Because as of now, Mayweather hasn't gotten beaten, and still has that very large base of fans that wants to see him get his ass kicked. And because of the numbers he's been generating, Pac doesn't have a leg to stand on when asking for a 50/50 split.

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              • Originally posted by hitking View Post
                The reality is, I think the bigger money split should always go to the winner of the fight. Remember, that indeed make boxing PRIZE FIGHTING. That said, its just not the way it is now. Precedent has been set over a couple decades now that the bigger draw recieves the lion's share of the purse in these mega events. And that's all I'm basing by arguements on.
                Spoken like a true fan if we could get the most up to date ped testing purse splits favoring the winner and promoters to allow their guys to fight the best all the time true fans would be happy and boxing would be back. But until then we can just try and be objective and see things how they are.

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                • Originally posted by dnut17 View Post
                  Spoken like a true fan if we could get the most up to date ped testing purse splits favoring the winner and promoters to allow their guys to fight the best all the time true fans would be happy and boxing would be back. But until then we can just try and be objective and see things how they are.
                  I think the money situation is clear buddy. According to the precedent that has been set over decades, if Pac is demanding a 50/50 split, he's pricing himself outta the fight. I know that won't be a popular statement, but that's what the numbers dictate in the situation.

                  As for the USADA testing, its more of a moral issue. Personally, I feel that it takes a person with very questionable character, or a person who is so emotional about a topic that he/she has completely lost touch with reality to defend someone taking a stance that he needs a window of time where he'll be immune to strict testing for illegal drugs. But, that's just my opinion.

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                  • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                    It's even worse up close. Laughably enormous.
                    lol... man i really think this guy is dirty and i tell you i was a really big fan of his up until he fought Diaz and Hatton when i started suspecting

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                    • Originally posted by nachomas4 View Post
                      lol... man i really think this guy is dirty and i tell you i was a really big fan of his up until he fought Diaz and Hatton when i started suspecting
                      Everyone started suspecting then. His fans know it too, they just don't want the truth to come out. They've been hoping he can juice up well and good to take on Floyd. Look at Shane...such a shame.

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