Comments Thread For: Pacquiao Continues To Pressure Mayweather To Fight

[Blink561]

I'm bored with people saying Pac fights bigger guys. Yes he started boxing at 106 pounds, he was also 16 then. Guess what, at 16 Floyd was also 106 pounds and had just won a national Golden Gloves championship. I think it was 1993. Manny was born 1 year after Mayweather so please stop the BS. Yes, he fight bigger guys but under conditions that cause them to drain themselves dry. Get real...

[| THE KING |]

I'm bored with people saying Pac fights bigger guys. Yes he started boxing at 106 pounds, he was also 16 then. Guess what, at 16 Floyd was also 106 pounds and had just won a national Golden Gloves championship. I think it was 1993. Manny was born 1 year after Mayweather so please stop the BS. Yes, he fight bigger guys but under conditions that cause them to drain themselves dry. Get real...

Uncle Roger, just yesterday, said himself that Manny is small and will get his ass kicked. LOL!

[rommel357]

OK, let me try and make this simpler for you buddy. Say your current employer hires you with a bachlor's degree at $50K a year. But, you discover that your company would be paying you $75K a year to do the same job if you had a masters. So, you go to school and earn your masters. Well, you take that to your employer and they tell you, "Nope, you agreed to $50K a year, so that's all you're getting." Would that be right? I think not. This situation is the same. Mayweather has gone out and clearly established hismelf as the bigger draw. He's outdrawn Pac by 500K PPV buys in their two fights respectively in his return. 500K buys is over $30M in revenue. Sorry buddy, but $30M+ is a ****load of money that can't be ignored except in Mutantville, Pacland. If Pac wants to be treated as an equal, he needs to fight someone else, and show that he can generate the same type of revenue. But if he wants Mayweather now, he's probably gonna have to do it as the B side the promotion because the numbers dictate it.

I can't even begin to tell you how bad this analogy is. You're comparing a situation between an employer and employee. Is Mayweather employing Manny or Manny employing Floyd, i'm sure you can figure that one out. This is between two completely independent en****** that both necessarily don't need each other, both have plenty of money, both have pride, granted one is quite egotistic and an a$$hole but he's proud of it(Floyd), and both are pretty much the most popular and highly watched boxers right now and both have huge amount of draws. Not to mention one is the champion and still is the p4p #1 boxer. You can argue all day that Floyd is a bigger draw, and i'll give you that, and i can argue as well that Manny is the champion and the #1 p4p king. Regardless of which side you agree on, both sides have equal, reasonable, legitimate, and valuable points.

[hitking]

I can't even begin to tell you how bad this analogy is. You're comparing a situation between an employer and employee. Is Mayweather employing Manny or Manny employing Floyd, i'm sure you can figure that one out. This is between two completely independent en****** that both necessarily don't need each other, both have plenty of money, both have pride, granted one is quite egotistic and an a$$hole but he's proud of it(Floyd), and both are pretty much the most popular and highly watched boxers right now and both have huge amount of draws. Not to mention one is the champion and still is the p4p #1 boxer. You can argue all day that Floyd is a bigger draw, and i'll give you that, and i can argue as well that Manny is the champion and the #1 p4p king. Regardless of which side you agree on, both sides have equal, reasonable, legitimate, and valuable points.

Titles and P4P ratings have nothing to do with who gets the lion's share of the purse. Pac was the #1 P4P when he fought de la Hoya, yet he was perfectly fine taking 30% of the purse. Why? because de la Hoya was the bigger draw. When he fought Hatton, they fought for Hatton's title. Pac originally agreed to a 50/50 split, then went back and threatened to pull out is he didn't get a bigger cut. Why? Because the PPV numbers reflected that he was a bigger draw. Those are two factual examples of how Pac has been on the long end, and the short end of the money based solely on who's the bigger draw. So why is he now wanting 50/50 when he doesn't deserve it?

BTW, Pac isn't the unquestioned P4P #1. Many P4P lists, including the one on this site, have Mayweather as the #1 P4P. Actually, if you look at the various lists around the net, Mayweather is #1 on about 60% of them. So the notion that Pac is the unquestioned P4P King is well........wrong. Also, if you want to talk titles, Mayweather is the lineal welterweight champ. Pac has a paper trinket that Mayweather has already made it clear that he has no intentions of paying a santioning fee to fight for. So in the end, your arguement is about 100% wrong, and really can't be backed up with anything other than fanboy nonsense.

[WESS]

Because he wants to make the ****ing fight happen... I thought the answer to that question would be clear as day to most people.

No cut off? Right, like the no cut off on the May/Mosley fight that turned out to be 18 days.

Right, but YOU or anyone for that matter DIDN'T know that until AFTER THE FACT. That's the entire point. I thought that would be clear as day to most people.

There is NO such thing as a "14 day cut off" or 18 day cut off for that matter.....

UNRESTRICTED RANDOM OST will get the fight made. It's been clear as day for MONTHS NOW... Why is this so hard to comprehend???

"The ball is now in Pac's court" - Brian Kennedy (the guy that bashes Mayweather, even he knows whats up)

[rommel357]

Titles and P4P ratings have nothing to do with who gets the lion's share of the purse. Pac was the #1 P4P when he fought de la Hoya, yet he was perfectly fine taking 30% of the purse. Why? because de la Hoya was the bigger draw. When he fought Hatton, they fought for Hatton's title. Pac originally agreed to a 50/50 split, then went back and threatened to pull out is he didn't get a bigger cut. Why? Because the PPV numbers reflected that he was a bigger draw. Those are two factual examples of how Pac has been on the long end, and the short end of the money based solely on who's the bigger draw. So why is he now wanting 50/50 when he doesn't deserve it?

BTW, Pac isn't the unquestioned P4P #1. Many P4P lists, including the one on this site, have Mayweather as the #1 P4P. Actually, if you look at the various lists around the net, Mayweather is #1 on about 60% of them. So the notion that Pac is the unquestioned P4P King is well........wrong. Also, if you want to talk titles, Mayweather is the lineal welterweight champ. Pac has a paper trinket that Mayweather has already made it clear that he has no intentions of paying a santioning fee to fight for. So in the end, your arguement is about 100% wrong, and really can't be backed up with anything other than fanboy nonsense.

First of all, why does Manny deserve it back in March, but now he doesn't. If you're going to use the Clottey vs Manny ppv #s vs the Floyd vs Mosley ppv #'s, then that argument still doesn't make any sense. Because Floyd had better ppv#'s back then already, especially when you compare their ppv#'s vs DLH. So again, that argument is moot. Being the champion and p4p#1 status might not necessarily command the bigger purse, i agree, but what i'm saying is that argument can be use by any boxer, especially when both boxers are equally popular and both are big draws like Floyd and Manny. Furthermore, your analogy of employer vs employee is just ridiculous and way off. In regards to the p4p ratings, i just look at The Ring's ratings, but that's just me.

[Gutz]

Floyd doesnt want to fight..


Must suck to be a Floyd fan always trying to defend the *****..

[hitking]

First of all, why does Manny deserve it back in March, but now he doesn't. If you're going to use the Clottey vs Manny ppv #s vs the Floyd vs Mosley ppv #'s, then that argument still doesn't make any sense. Because Floyd had better ppv#'s back then already, especially when you compare their ppv#'s vs DLH. So again, that argument is moot. Being the champion and p4p#1 status might not necessarily command the bigger purse, i agree, but what i'm saying is that argument can be use by any boxer, especially when both boxers are equally popular and both are big draws like Floyd and Manny. Furthermore, your analogy of employer vs employee is just ridiculous and way off. In regards to the p4p ratings, i just look at The Ring's ratings, but that's just me.

You have to understand buddy, back in March, Pac had just outdrawn Mayweather by a pretty significant amount in their most recent PPV events. Pacquaio-Cotto outdid Mayweather-Marquez by about 150K buys, and that's well over $10M in revenue. So recent PPV success, combine with Mayweather outdoing Pac with common dance partners warrented a 50/50 split, and that's why Mayweather agreed. But now, those dynamics have changed. Like I said before, Mayweather has outdrawn Pac by 500K PPV buys in his return. That's not based solely on their last events. That's based on 4 fights between the two fighters. So in his return, we have have a a great gage of two events apice to see who the bigger draw is, and its Mayweather. So when you look at a fair deal, Pac really doesn't have a leg to stand on when it comes to actual numbers and revenue generated.

As for the ratings, I feel you on following The Ring magazine ratings. Their divisional ratings are pretty much official with me, but, P4P is such a subjective thing that I like to get more than one opinion. And when you get multiple opinions, there is no clear cut P4P King at the moment.

[chinoy]

just see how fast Floyd run when Pac accepts random test.....its pretty clear why Floyd wanted to temporarily retire.....why dont you watch the interview again *****

If he accept random testing, Floyd have no reason not to fight him..But until he accept the test the way it should be, he's just repeating what he said weeks ago..

[WESS]

Floyd doesnt want to fight..


Must suck to be a Floyd fan always trying to defend the *****..

No need to defend Floyd but to ease your mind, we all know he wants to fight... he's said it numerous times and proved it 41 times. Fact

It actually sucks that we're all waiting on congressman Pac to make his mind up this time around. Hopefully he wont run/duck/hide in court... We the REAL fans of boxing don't have time for that nonsense hurt vagina shyt all over again... Let alone hear how he's going to sue everyone.... (no wonder MMA/UFC laughs and points at boxing)

"The ball is now in Pac's corner" - Brian Kennedy

What must really suck is betting against Mayweather. BTW Bodog has (the bigger man) Mayweather as the favorite to beat (the smaller man) Pac...

crazy world....