Comments Thread For: Arum: Pacquiao Has Agreed, Mayweather's Move is Next

[OneTwoCombo]

Pacquiao's people talk too much.

[hitking]

Floyd won't generate record PPV numbers by himself, neither will Pacquiao.

THE FIGHT, itself will. Both are on even terms as far status goes.

It's not like "The World Awaits" where one guy was a Part-time fighter with a big name and the other an active P4P King. This thing is even in P4P, and in PPV terms, it's the # 1 guy vs #2 guy, there are no other PPV attractions out there.

Asking for anything more than 50/50 is stubborn pride, and at the end of the day, with that viewpoint, Floyd gets paid ZILCH....whether you think he should get 60% or 80%.

Cro, in Mayweather's return, heand Pac have had two PPVs apiece. In those two PPVs, Money has outdrawn Pac by 500K buys. That doesn't sound like a lot, but when you do the quick math, that's $30M+. It doesn't matter who's more popular, or who actually has fans paying to see them win and who has haters paying to see them lose. When you look at the numbers, Mayweather is destroying Pac in revenue generated and from a business standpoint, that can't be ignored just for the sake of making a boxing match happen. Plus you have to remember, Mayweather made $40+ to fight Mosley. I believe an event with he and Williams or Martinez would do just as well as Mayweather-Mosley. Money can get 65%-75% of the purse against either and would likely make more than he would doing a 50/50 deal with Pac. Pac hasn't shown he can generate the type of payday that he would get with Mayweather with other dance partners.

[Pullcounter]

you're basically saying the fight is never gonna happen.

[Pullcounter]

Cro, in Mayweather's return, heand Pac have had two PPVs apiece. In those two PPVs, Money has outdrawn Pac by 500K buys. That doesn't sound like a lot, but when you do the quick math, that's $30M+. It doesn't matter who's more popular, or who actually has fans paying to see them win and who has haters paying to see them lose. When you look at the numbers, Mayweather is destroying Pac in revenue generated and from a business standpoint, that can't be ignored just for the sake of making a boxing match happen. Plus you have to remember, Mayweather made $40+ to fight Mosley. I believe an event with he and Williams or Martinez would do just as well as Mayweather-Mosley. Money can get 65%-75% of the purse against either and would likely make more than he would doing a 50/50 deal with Pac. Pac hasn't shown he can generate the type of payday that he would get with Mayweather with other dance partners.

in other words, you rather floyd get paid than actually see the fight.

[trainhard_187]

How can you agree to something that doesn't exist anymore?


Doesn't show anything except that he wasted everyone's time back in January when this fight could've been made on those terms.

So now it doesnt exist... how does that look like on Floyd.. Ok 14day cut is ok in March but now its gone.. and to top it off, 18 days was the cutoff for his fight with Shane..

So Floyd takes the 14days off the table now that Pac has agreed too but it aint there anymore and his fight with Shane was 18days..

Hmmm, it just doesnt seem like Floyd wants the fight cause he did throw in the first curve ball with the drug test to begin with..

[cupocity303]

floyd sales more PPV and does more gate than pac. its a proven fact. not only does he outsell pac, his numbers crushes pacs.

but all of a sudden, when they fight one another, they will both bring 50% of ppv buys and gate rev.? equally?

come on dude.

floyd rightfully deserves 55 or 60% b/c hes proven to bring more money in gate and ppv, much more money. that cant be disputed. saying anything against that is pure hate

You're being rigidly stubborn about this and you missed the big picture on what I said.

I repeat, they're the only two active PPV fighters on the HBO roster. Nobody else fights on PPV actively yet alone generate anything from 900K to a Million.

Floyd can get the lions share against any other fighter out there, always. So can Pac, against any other fighter. But the only way, either of them get a career high payday is against each other. So compromising and agreeing to 50/50 is reasonable and practical. Keeping on arguing about getting more money than the other is nothing but petty pride, and with that stance he isn't getting paid ZILCH. So Floyd can go on and fight Martinez and take 60% or even 70% to show his superiority and it still won't be close to what he would be getting with a 50% Vs Pac.

Pac can go on and fight Margarito or Cotto and take 60% or 70% and he won't get **** compared to a 50% vs Mayweather

Something people like you who spend their entire time defending Floyd's honour to no end, fail to comprehend.

[Pacquiao'd]

Actually, Pacquaio is better at the gate than Mayweather. Mayweather's gates have been higher because tix to his fights cost more. But Pac sells far better at the gate than Mayweather. That said, I'm sure Mayweather would gladly give Pac the lion's share of the live gate if he could get the lion's share of the PPV revenue. Hell, the PPV revenue for the Mosley fight was more than $80M. The PPV revenue for a fight with Pac would be even higher. So if Pac wass the lion's share of $15M-$20M, and he's willing to give Mayweather the lion's share of $100M+, I'm sure you would get no objections from the Mayweather side.

pac clottey's 51k tickets only brought in $4.2mil, floyd jmm 13k tickets brought in 6.8 mil. floyd and shanes gate was $11mil.

at the end of the day, all that matters about the gate is how much revenue it makes. and thats it.

[The Gambler1981]

If those terms were acceptable to them they should have accepted it back in March, sucks for them that just agreeing to those terms is probably only a starting point.

They are still negotiating in the media, there is nothing else to call this other than straight up spin.

Having not heard from Mayweather's side, it looks like Manny's side is not doing what it takes to get the fight done and looks like they are trying not have the fight happean but still end up favorable to them.

[feefiflofum]

to me pacquiao looked bad for the fight not happening the first time but if mayweather refuses now its his fault this time around. i know he said the original deal was off the table but he was fine with it once so why not now? but if this fight never happens they are both *******s because they both will have done their fair share to keep it from happening.

exactly, his ass doesnt have a reason when it comes down to the actualy purpose of the drug testing itself, nothing u can put in ur system can benefit u for 14 days b4 the fight and then u have the urine test itself which is not cutt off and up to the fight.. PAC PROPOSE THEY DO IT EVERYDAY, mayweather has no reason to switch from 14 to 0... unless hes ducking, there's no other reason!!
being a diva is just a smokescreen because when it comes down to it, there's 50 million dollars on the line that belongs to floyd and u know, all hes implying by his actions now is hes ducking the paycheck because he doesnt wanna get beat...LOL dude got 50 million in his last two fights which would equal wat he would earn with pac .. more reason why he announce he retire and dont give a flying f about the paycheck he gonna earn with pac

pac said it will weaken him if he has OST... hence why pac cant agree.. may got no reason to say 0 days.. ducker!

[hitking]

bad analogy. mayweather's purse against pac dwarfs his purse against any other active boxer. so your analogy fails.

You're wrong, because he made $40M+ fighting Mosley. He would very likely do very similar PPV numbers with Williams or Martinez. Mayweather-Pacquaio isn't gonna do more than a million more buys. So if you think he doesn't get close to what he would make splitting everything down the middle with Pac as he would getting a 65%-75% split with Williams or Martinez, you don't have a grasp of basic mathematics.