Comments Thread For: Arum: Pacquiao Has Agreed, Mayweather's Move is Next

[IMDAZED]

he looks like a monkey and so do you, manny looks real good, has a valid legit reason since 2005.. 5 years,he was weak 3 days b4 the morales fight when they drew blood from him, its on video, youtube it.. i bet ur ass wouldnt believe it though, u dont even believe may retired and he said it with a straight face lmao. shane is a juicer exactly why he couldnt go against the OST although his ass was whining like a ***** in 24/7 in the parking when they had ost.. but anyways if pac was a juicer and failed a test

How do I look like a monkey, flub?

[The Gambler1981]

So now it doesnt exist... how does that look like on Floyd.. Ok 14day cut is ok in March but now its gone.. and to top it off, 18 days was the cutoff for his fight with Shane..

So Floyd takes the 14days off the table now that Pac has agreed too but it aint there anymore and his fight with Shane was 18days..

Hmmm, it just doesnt seem like Floyd wants the fight cause he did throw in the first curve ball with the drug test to begin with..

Offers don't last forever people in the Unitied States are aware of such things and Lloyd has said all along that offer will not get it done after they decided to go another way, he was trying to make the fight and then Manny's whole side made it seem like he was the issue why the fight didn't come off and Floyd was not happy.


Floyd makes more money on average than Manny so if Floyd is upset about how they did him they have to appease him to get him on board, or he can just fight Williams or Martinez and make more than Manny makes fighting Cotto a second time.


Also remember when Manny side said they would not negoitate in the media, accepting an offer that does not currently exist is not really helping the fight get made and in fact makes it much harder to make. I have not heard Floyd or his side say a word, so how can they know that is what he is willing to accept

So I would say it is the reverse, I think Manny wants the fight if he can get his way but he doesn't want to do what it takes to make the fight happean (and would still make way more than he has ever made in 1 fight) but if the fight does not come off he doesn't want it to seem like it is his fault even though he is unwilling to really go the extra mile to make it happean.

[cupocity303]

there is no big picture in what you stated. youa re trying to put lip stick on a pig but its still a pig.

floyd doesnt have to be the "bigger man." he did that and pac walked away.

this has nothing to do with honor, its about what you rightfully have claim to. and floyd rightfully deserves the lions gate share. the fact that pac refused 14 days the last time, means its off the table. but **** it, FLoyd stated that the old terms were off the table when his numbers smashed pacs.

you fail to comprehend everything you wrote means ****.

you are full of cop-outs

Yes Floyd deserves more money and in return he won't get paid nothing in what is considered the bigger money match-up out there.

That sounds like smart business to me. It's not about honour, it's about business. Just because you or Floyd think that he should get more out of this deal, doesn't make it a smart business postion IF THE FIGHT HAS NO CHANCE OF HAPPENING THAT WAY.

[trainhard_187]

How does it look on Floyd? How does it look on Manny that 14 days wasnt ok when they were negotiating but it is now that they're not? And did Shane and Floyd know about this cutoff? Finally, does the USADA use the same protocol every time?


See above. Manny wants to know ahead of time. Why?

How does it look on Manny, simple.. He is complying with the original negotiations which clearly shows interest in the fight and taking the test that really has nothing to do with the NSAC.. Pac has bended to Floyds original demand..

Now if that bargain table is gone and Floyd demands more its obvious Floyd just doesnt want the fight..

Why does Manny want to know ahead of time? F** if I know, and if you reply that he wants to juice up in between those 14 days well I doubt he would risk his reputation and name on the line knowing damn well he is going to get tested after the fight..

[hitking]

in other words, you care more about floyd's business than actually seeing the fight.

Nope, I just know that if I apply for a job that pays $50K a year, I'm not gonna do it for $40K. And I don't expect anyone else to do so either.

[feefiflofum]

Yes Floyd deserves more money and in return he won't get paid nothing in what is considered the bigger money match-up out there.

That sounds like smart business to me. It's not about honour, it's about business. Just because you or Floyd think that he should get more out of this deal, doesn't make it a smart business postion IF THE FIGHT HAS NO CHANCE OF HAPPENING THAT WAY.

good point, which is exactly why they wanna stick to 60-40 because it will lessen the chance of not happening at all

[Jimbo16031992]

So now it doesnt exist... how does that look like on Floyd.. Ok 14day cut is ok in March but now its gone.. and to top it off, 18 days was the cutoff for his fight with Shane..

So Floyd takes the 14days off the table now that Pac has agreed too but it aint there anymore and his fight with Shane was 18days..

Hmmm, it just doesnt seem like Floyd wants the fight cause he did throw in the first curve ball with the drug test to begin with..

There was no cutoff, the last test happened to be 18 days before the fight, which was USADAs choice, neither of the fighter's. They could have been tested up until the fight at a random time, hence neither fighter could take anything as USADA could have turned up 15 minutes later t test, they just happened not to do so.

[feefiflofum]

How does it look on Manny, simple.. He is complying with the original negotiations which clearly shows interest in the fight and taking the test that really has nothing to do with the NSAC.. Pac has bended to Floyds original demand..

Now if that bargain table is gone and Floyd demands more its obvious Floyd just doesnt want the fight..

Why does Manny want to know ahead of time? F** if I know, and if you reply that he wants to juice up in between those 14 days well I doubt he would risk his reputation and name on the line knowing damn well he is going to get tested after the fight..

u got that right, dont forget, its not really about a tug-of-war and whos looking like hes the bigger man whos calling the shots, pac has a legit reason to stick with 14 dayshe doesnt wanna be weak, he wants to be 100% and give it his all.. in the name of boxing.. FLOYD HAS NO REASON TO GET AWAY FROM IT.. unless hes ducking manny and could give two *****s about boxing him

that alone makes him look like a ducker

when it comes down to it.. if ur ass has no reason to change demand.. then ur a ducker

[trainhard_187]

Offers don't last forever people in the Unitied States are aware of such things and Lloyd has said all along that offer will not get it done after they decided to go another way, he was trying to make the fight and then Manny's whole side made it seem like he was the issue why the fight didn't come off and Floyd was not happy.


Floyd makes more money on average than Manny so if Floyd is upset about how they did him they have to appease him to get him on board, or he can just fight Williams or Martinez and make more than Manny makes fighting Cotto a second time.


Also remember when Manny side said they would not negoitate in the media, accepting an offer that does not currently exist is not really helping the fight get made and in fact makes it much harder to make. I have not heard Floyd or his side say a word, so how can they know that is what he is willing to accept

So I would say it is the reverse, I think Manny wants the fight if he can get his way but he doesn't want to do what it takes to make the fight happean (and would still make way more than he has ever made in 1 fight) but if the fight does not come off he doesn't want it to seem like it is his fault even though he is unwilling to really go the extra mile to make it happean.

Ok, lets say, since many of you already reported, that the first offer is gone..

Now Floyd has a new one.. How does that look on Floyd making new rules and increasing his bargaining power.. Obviously it looks like he just doesnt want the fight... and to top that off he clearly states he might be taking a year or two off. Whether thats true or not, it clearly shows that he just doesnt want that fight..

[IMDAZED]

How does it look on Manny, simple.. He is complying with the original negotiations which clearly shows interest in the fight and taking the test that really has nothing to do with the NSAC.. Pac has bended to Floyds original demand..

The original demand was for full testing. I had no idea Pac agreed to that.

Now if that bargain table is gone and Floyd demands more its obvious Floyd just doesnt want the fight..

The demand was gone in February. Unless Floyd was a psychic and knew Pacquiao would change his mind in May.

Why does Manny want to know ahead of time? F** if I know, and if you reply that he wants to juice up in between those 14 days well I doubt he would risk his reputation and name on the line knowing damn well he is going to get tested after the fight..

Well, since the purpose is to randomly test the fighters as a deterrent maybe Pac should stop asking to know. Just a thought. And since he's not using - like you say - he should have no problems doing that.