Does Cotto make it back on your P4P List??

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  • Hallaqsillaq
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    #41
    Originally posted by -veteran420-
    doesnt matter, you have to look at all the cards on the table...

    too much if/maybe bull****


    i give cotto credit, it was a good win for him, he looked good and should have a nice fight going forward... but to throw him back in the top 10 p4p is absurd....

    then again, looking at your favorite fighters... well... it all makes sense
    Wow, you look at my favorite fighters list and can glean what? F@ck all, that's what.

    That means ****, as I'm not contending Cotto is P4P, merely that Yuri was not going to cause Cotto trouble at any point in time, he got scared the moment Cotto's jab smacked him against the ropes a few times.

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    • street bully
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      #42
      Originally posted by jrosales13
      Foreman is not a tomato though
      He is a C level fighter at best. Speaking truthfully who could he beat at 154? Sure as hell isnn't touching Paul Williams or martinez, and would still lose to Cintron and Angullo. Yuri was a larger slightly better Jennings.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Hallaqsillaq
        Wow, you look at my favorite fighters list and can glean what? F@ck all, that's what.

        That means ****, as I'm not contending Cotto is P4P, merely that Yuri was not going to cause Cotto trouble at any point in time, he got scared the moment Cotto's jab smacked him against the ropes a few times.
        for starters junior, i actually edited my post and put afterward when i saw your faves...

        secondly, its still no more than hear say or assumptions...

        cotto won the fight, and looked great doing so, but doesnt change the fact that he stopped an injured fighter...

        the facts are the facts and your speculation is... well... speculation

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          #44
          Originally posted by -veteran420-
          for starters junior, i actually edited my post and put afterward when i saw your faves...

          secondly, its still no more than hear say or assumptions...

          cotto won the fight, and looked great doing so, but doesnt change the fact that he stopped an injured fighter...

          the facts are the facts and your speculation is... well... speculation
          you mind if i ask you a question, just want your opinion, what would be the diffrence between someone who has a cut over his eye and cant see v.s someone who injure his leg and can move? if yuri had a cut and had blood going into his eyes and couldnt see in the 7th round whereby cotto had a chance of ko-ing and he does, would u hold it against cotto's performance?

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            #45
            Here we go already using Foreman's injury as an excuse. Cotto was winning going away. To say he would fade int he later rounds when he has no history of fading against guys on the back foot is ridiculous. Cotto only fades against pressure fighters or just plain beasts aka Margarito and Pac.

            Originally posted by CarlosG815
            Paul Williams is the best p4p fighter in boxing right now.

            Cotto isn't all that skilled, and if your list is based on skill how in the hell does he even break top 5?
            Williams was getting outboxed by Cintron and he was already outclassed by Quintana. I don't think this is a big deal, but when you say the things you say about Cotto then say Williams is the best fighter in the sport I have to wonder whether you're a bit bias.

            And I would have Cotto in the 9-10 spot at best, but I haven't really thought about my list since I haven't seen some of the little fighters fight recently.

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              #46
              Originally posted by -veteran420-
              for starters junior, i actually edited my post and put afterward when i saw your faves...

              secondly, its still no more than hear say or assumptions...

              cotto won the fight, and looked great doing so, but doesnt change the fact that he stopped an injured fighter...

              the facts are the facts and your speculation is... well... speculation
              junior?

              Your entire argument loses credibility after pulling the seniority card. This isn't 1950, what a ridiculous thing to say....

              The pace of the fight wasn't going to change. Watch Cotto cut off the ring, he was doing an A+ job of it, Yuri injured himself because Cotto kept closing in and blocking him off. This wasn't a old, shot Santos he was facing.

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                #47
                Originally posted by feefiflofum
                you mind if i ask you a question, just want your opinion, what would be the diffrence between someone who has a cut over his eye and cant see v.s someone who injure his leg and can move? if yuri had a cut and couldnt see in the 7th round, would u hold it against cotto?
                there is a difference

                if it was stopped because of a cut that cotto CAUSED himself... thats a lot different... this was a freak accident, a slip... not from a punch or a butt or anything...

                when you see a fighter beat someones face in and they're cut to the point of having the fight stopped, its different than when someone slips and ****s up their knee and loses

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                  #48
                  No? What has he done?

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Hallaqsillaq
                    junior?

                    Your entire argument loses credibility after pulling the seniority card. This isn't 1950, what a ridiculous thing to say....

                    The pace of the fight wasn't going to change. Watch Cotto cut off the ring, he was doing an A+ job of it, Yuri injured himself because Cotto kept closing in and blocking him off. This wasn't a old, shot Santos he was facing.
                    for you to declare victory over that shows your ignorance and immaturity... back to school you go son

                    as for the bold, more speculation


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                      #50
                      Originally posted by street bully
                      He is a C level fighter at best. Speaking truthfully who could he beat at 154? Sure as hell isnn't touching Paul Williams or martinez, and would still lose to Cintron and Angullo. Yuri was a larger slightly better Jennings.
                      He is not beating Williams, Martinez, or even Dzinziruk. But, those are the elites at 154. And, then Cotto follows who is obviously Foreman can't beat.

                      But, after the that there is a big drop off. I could see Foreman beating Cintrong. Foreman showed last night he has intangibles that Cintron doesn't. I think people really underrate the intangibles in boxing. So with the intangibles taking place I could see Foreman beating Cintron. I could style wise Foreman giving a lot of problems to Angulo.

                      I think Foreman right now, as of now is better than whoever wins the Spinks-Bundrage fight.

                      Foreman is a top 10 fighter. However, I would give you that the reason he might be top 10 is cuz the division is so weak.

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