Does Cotto make it back on your P4P List??

[Hallaqsillaq]

there is a difference

if it was stopped because of a cut that cotto CAUSED himself... thats a lot different... this was a freak accident, a slip... not from a punch or a butt or anything...

when you see a fighter beat someones face in and they're cut to the point of having the fight stopped, its different than when someone slips and ****s up their knee and loses

His jabs had Yuri's nose trickling blood, his jab had sent Yuri back into the ropes countless times, and he had landed some solid shots. Yuri had two, maybe three solid shots on Cotto, in five rounds. He wasn't winning like that, Cotto was not wary of him, you can't beat him if he doesn't respect you.

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His jabs had Yuri's nose trickling blood, his jab had sent Yuri back into the ropes countless times, and he had landed some solid shots. Yuri had two, maybe three solid shots on Cotto, in five rounds. He wasn't winning like that, Cotto was not wary of him, you can't beat him if he doesn't respect you.

ok, just for fun... say i agree with you... again, for fun


ive admitted already that cotto looked good in this fight and is at least ready to fight the top 154 pounders.. not saying he'll win

but that in no way means he's top 10 p4p after one good performance against a guy who has NO power and ****ed up his leg ON HIS OWN in the fight...

the point is, if you overlook foreman's injury then its a bad judgment call, because guess what... the injury was real and actually happened... unlike all the people saying "the fight wouldnt have changed one bit, cotto this cotto that" etc etc...

and a win over yuri foreman wont catapult anyone into top 10 p4p....

[Hallaqsillaq]

ok, just for fun... say i agree with you... again, for fun


ive admitted already that cotto looked good in this fight and is at least ready to fight the top 154 pounders.. not saying he'll win

but that in no way means he's top 10 p4p after one good performance against a guy who has NO power and ****ed up his leg ON HIS OWN in the fight...

the point is, if you overlook foreman's injury then its a bad judgment call, because guess what... the injury was real and actually happened... unlike all the people saying "the fight wouldnt have changed one bit, cotto this cotto that" etc etc...

and a win over yuri foreman wont catapult anyone into top 10 p4p....

Well, he's a three division champ now. P4P or not. Who really cares about P4P anyways, its subjective hogwash.

He may be too small to campaign at 154, and he's got accumulated damage that may impede him from performing at his best level from now on.

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Well, he's a three division champ now. P4P or not. Who really cares about P4P anyways, its subjective hogwash.

He may be too small to campaign at 154, and he's got accumulated damage that may impede him from performing at his best level from now on.

i agree with all of that... but since its a "top 10 p4p" thread, thats why im discussing it...

i think he has trouble against williams or martinez, but i give him a better shot against williams.... that would be a HUGE win for him...

not sure what i think of a Cintron fight right now...

but i dont want him to go back to WW.. finally he didnt look too fatigued, if he can have good stamina at 154, more power to him.. but he is a little short

and yeah, he's got some high mileage at this point in his career... i think he defends his belt 2-3 more times at 154 then fights williams, martinez or similar and maybe rides off into the sunset... for his own good...

i see manny is thinking about a rematch... not sure i'd like that idea if i were a cotto fan

[swizz]

nope

not yet.... if he would have won that convincingly w/o the knee injury, maybe

he was getting own before that injury

[swizz]

Paul Williams is the best p4p fighter in boxing right now.

Cotto isn't all that skilled, and if your list is based on skill how in the hell does he even break top 5?

williams defense is suspect and he could get hit so what skills you talking about

[MOTHER DUCKER]

He replaces Williams on my list

[Hallaqsillaq]

i agree with all of that... but since its a "top 10 p4p" thread, thats why im discussing it...

i think he has trouble against williams or martinez, but i give him a better shot against williams.... that would be a HUGE win for him...

not sure what i think of a Cintron fight right now...

but i dont want him to go back to WW.. finally he didnt look too fatigued, if he can have good stamina at 154, more power to him.. but he is a little short

and yeah, he's got some high mileage at this point in his career... i think he defends his belt 2-3 more times at 154 then fights williams, martinez or similar and maybe rides off into the sunset... for his own good...

i see manny is thinking about a rematch... not sure i'd like that idea if i were a cotto fan

Well, on this subject, Cotto is somewhere between top 10-15 in the rankings. Some of the young up and comers deserve recognition.

I think I like his stamina at 154 as well. For some reason though he is a small guy, his stamina has been suffering lately at 147. Is it lack of training, drugs, sex before the fight? Who knows, but last night he showed improvement and he maintained his composure, which surprised me. Against Pac, the minute Pac went nuts he went nuts and got clocked for his effort.

[whitealltrac]

Really??

Elite 154 = Paul Williams and Sergio Martinez, both of which will wipe the floor with Cotto.

A fight with Williams is the way to go right now for Cotto, I guess you forgot how Quintana wooped Williams and how Cotto wooped Quintana??? But I guess that does not matter because it will be a totaly diffrent fight right?

The way I see it Cotto can and will KO Williams as easy as Quintana did.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

He replaces Williams on my list

In other words your list is laughable.