Video Analysis - Greatest Fighters Of All Time

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  • NChristo
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    #31
    Originally posted by MmuhammadM
    It's common knowledge that Ali emulated SRR's style throughout his first career.
    His style is actually closer to that of Gene Tunney's then Ray Robinson's, they box very similar and move the same.

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      #32
      Originally posted by -IronMike-
      He should of stuck with Archie Moore, imo. I have never been impressed with Robinson's and subsequently Ali's defense
      he wouldn't have gotten as far as he did if he used Archie Moore. Angelo Dundee knew very well what he was doing. Archie Moore style would have "bottlenecked" his natural athletic abilities.

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        #33
        Originally posted by NChristo
        His style is actually closer to that of Gene Tunney's then Ray Robinson's, they box very similar and move the same.
        He's on the video as well if I'm not mistaken, right?

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        • NChristo
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          #34
          Originally posted by MmuhammadM
          He's on the video as well if I'm not mistaken, right?
          Haven't watched it all yet, most probably will be yes.
          One of the greatest LHW ever.

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            #35
            Originally posted by omarinbox
            Would move Duran and Tyson up. Put Robinson at the top. Relegate Dempsey.

            Jack Johnson?

            What is a great boxer? Is it boxing ability?

            He was a great brawler at the time. The best in the world and the biggest draw in his time. A serious bad boy with the court cases but the likes of Tyson, Tunney and Marciano were better heavyweight boxers.
            are u joking? when jack johnson was fighting he was arguably the best pure boxer of all time up to that point. he was everythig but a brawler, he was considered a defensive genius. corbett invented the idea of a jab but johnson took it to a new level, he took the art of hitting and not get hit to a new level in general.

            the fact that u would move tyson up shows how little u really know about boxing, tyson should be happy to squeeze into the top 50, very happy. he has no buisness in the top 20. only mainstream fans think he does.

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              #36
              Originally posted by MmuhammadM
              he wouldn't have gotten as far as he did if he used Archie Moore. Angelo Dundee knew very well what he was doing. Archie Moore style would have "bottlenecked" his natural athletic abilities.
              I don't think so, Moore wanted him to sit down on his punches (ko power) and be more technically defensive minded. According to Morre, it was him that taught Ali the Rope a Dope. As for Dundee, he made suggestions to Ali during training sometimes Ali listen to him other times he ignored him. He couldnt of been happy with the way Ali chose to defend himself in the ring

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                #37
                Originally posted by -IronMike-
                I don't think so, Moore wanted him to sit down on his punches (ko power) and be more technically defensive minded. According to Morre, it was him that taught Ali the Rope a Dope. As for Dundee, he made suggestions to Ali during training sometimes Ali listen to him other times he ignored him. He couldnt of been happy with the way Ali chose to defend himself in the ring
                really? I didn't know that. where did you read it?

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by MmuhammadM
                  really? I didn't know that. where did you read it?
                  The Ghosts of Manila- Mark Kram
                  Kram spent a lot of time interviewing Moore.

                  After Ali dropped him in their fight he shouted, "where's the dishes? Where's the laundry?"

                  After the fight Moore went to Ali's dressing room and said, "Never show up another fighter son, you never know when you may be coming down yourself"

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by -IronMike-
                    The Ghosts of Manila- Mark Kram
                    Kram spent a lot of time interviewing Moore.

                    After Ali dropped him in their fight he shouted, "where's the dishes? Where's the laundry?"

                    After the fight Moore went to Ali's dressing room and said, "Never show up another fighter son, you never know when you may be coming down yourself"
                    Is it true that Archie Moore became mental or something?

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by MmuhammadM
                      Is it true that Archie Moore became mental or something?
                      Not to my knowledge, that guy had over 200 fights and walked away from the boxing game fine.

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