Will pacquiao 7 weight division championship belt ever be broke?

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

That is like an oxymoron.

Thats why I put it in quotations.

It most likely wont happen again due to some of those reasons.

[MaD RoBoT]

i was more impressed on his 4 lineal belts rather than his 7 belts-7 divisions

[tacoboxer]

This line of thinking is what is wrong with the whole multiple titles thing. You are discussing taking the easiest most beatable titlists instead of who is the best fighter at the division. That is why Henry Armstrong's feats IMO are greater than Pac's. He held three championships (when there were only eight) simultaneously from 126-147. He got screwed while going for the MW championship (while only weighing 142!)

I have no doubt in my mind that if he were around today with a WBA,WBC,WBO,IBF and IBO belt available in each division he would win one at 122,126,130,135,140,147,154 and 160.

What if in a few years, divisions are restructured so that each one is only 4 pounds whereby creating 3 new divisions between 130 and 162? Sound far-fetched? (More champions mean more sanctioning fees for the governing bodies) Imagine what 17 divisions with 5 titlists would have sounded like to people in the 1950's.Now imagine some guy comes along and wins 9 titles. How would these titles compare to Pac's total?

Pac accomplishments are impressive, but let's get some perspective. Pac has won titles that did not exist in divisions that did not exist when some of the other greats were active.

Absolutely the most sensible post of this entire tread..... this "what if".... "if he just".... "when this guy loses, pac can then fight this other guy?.....

Its absolutely absurd..... If PAC wanted, Arum would have served up Yuri on a silver platter for another divisional title at 154..... the fight didn't happen (believe what you want either Arum killed to keep both fighters making $$$ or PAC killed it because he believes Yuri is too big.... pick your poison)

Betting all my point that PAC doesn't win a title at 154 or above.... any takers?

[dc3383]

he could. But the thing is, he don't want it.....

your right he doesn't care about winning belts anymore just checks

[tacoboxer]

At that time Vivian Harris was better and more highly ranked then Corley, Bruseles, and Gatti was at 140. And, Harris had the WBA 140 pound title. Gatti was the bigger name so that is understandable. However, fighting Bruseles over Harris while you're Harris mandatory is not understandable. I don't care how anybody else would try to spin it.

At 147, Baldomir was the lineal champ. So fighting him is understandable. However, Margarito was the best WW at that and the longest reigning WW champ at that time.

At 154, at that time Dzinziruk and Spinks were better than that version of Oscar. But, Oscar was the bigger name and more money so again that is understandable.

The point is that at 140-154 he didn't fight the best champ until he fought Shane in May.

So what is your point... Floyd ducked Vivian Harris because he was such a threat..... (harris got lit up by carlos maussa... a slow, low skill, heavy handed club fighter....) You cant possibly believe that there was anybody at 140 that would have given Floyd any trouble?

If your point is lineal titles fine... you wont get an argument from me that Floyd was ever the lineal at 140.... but don't give me any weak argument that the reason he wasn't was because he was ducking anybody at 140.... weak, weak, weak....

[jrosales13]

So what is your point... Floyd ducked Vivian Harris because he was such a threat..... (harris got lit up by carlos maussa... a slow, low skill, heavy handed club fighter....) You cant possibly believe that there was anybody at 140 that would have given Floyd any trouble?

If your point is lineal titles fine... you wont get an argument from me that Floyd was ever the lineal at 140.... but don't give me any weak argument that the reason he wasn't was because he was ducking anybody at 140.... weak, weak, weak....

Did you read the post I was responding to? Or are you just going off without reading ****?

[pasawayako]

Didn't PAC fight Cotto at 145? Isnt that what you would call a catch weight fight?

(..... I'm not asking because I dont know the answer..... I'm asking because you made an issue about fighting at a catch weight for Floyd made him a cheater.... please explain why PAC can fight at a catchweight and not be considered a cheater?)

I know u already know what i mean but in case you really don't know, Floyd cheated marquez in a weigh in in their catchweight fight......

[jrosales13]

This line of thinking is what is wrong with the whole multiple titles thing. You are discussing taking the easiest most beatable titlists instead of who is the best fighter at the division. That is why Henry Armstrong's feats IMO are greater than Pac's. He held three championships (when there were only eight) simultaneously from 126-147. He got screwed while going for the MW championship (while only weighing 142!)

I have no doubt in my mind that if he were around today with a WBA,WBC,WBO,IBF and IBO belt available in each division he would win one at 122,126,130,135,140,147,154 and 160.

What if in a few years, divisions are restructured so that each one is only 4 pounds whereby creating 3 new divisions between 130 and 162? Sound far-fetched? (More champions mean more sanctioning fees for the governing bodies) Imagine what 17 divisions with 5 titlists would have sounded like to people in the 1950's.Now imagine some guy comes along and wins 9 titles. How would these titles compare to Pac's total?

Pac accomplishments are impressive, but let's get some perspective. Pac has won titles that did not exist in divisions that did not exist when some of the other greats were active.

His first fight with Garcia at WW, Armstrong won. From what I read the fight was a robbery. But, when I saw it recently. Scoring that fight a draw is not what I considered a robbery. Garcia finished the fight strong and it was a close fight. I had Amstrong edging it out. But, he didn't get screwed.

And, yes he weight 142 against Garcia in the rematch. But, he was in the 130's in the first fight. Matter both fights the pounds difference was damn near the same.

[Mrmza]

Highly doubtful that this will ever be broken. Not even Floyd can do it. Yeah, yeah all you PBF fans can say whatever you like...your boy's got skills through genetics while Pac is ABSOLUTE RAW!!! A freak of a talent which is why he is FIGHTER OF THE DECADE!!! Nice post btw!!

[pasawayako]

in the of end day belts dont mean **** its who you fight and in what time did you fight that fighter was it in his prime or on his wayout or was the fighter a bum? this is how Pac is going to be rated by boxing historians

Pac has already rated by some of the boxing historians and put them at the very high in an ATG rankings, even some respected boxing experts already put him with ali, robinson and armstrong.