Well, what Roy jones did was greater IMO, Pac got gift decisions and beat past prime/shot fighters in his run. He does not have wins like Toney and Hopkins going up, so yea, Pac is overrated right now.
Pac 7 weight division champ
Roy 4 weight division champ
This line of thinking is what is wrong with the whole multiple titles thing. You are discussing taking the easiest most beatable titlists instead of who is the best fighter at the division. That is why Henry Armstrong's feats IMO are greater than Pac's. He held three championships (when there were only eight) simultaneously from 126-147. He got screwed while going for the MW championship (while only weighing 142!)
I have no doubt in my mind that if he were around today with a WBA,WBC,WBO,IBF and IBO belt available in each division he would win one at 122,126,130,135,140,147,154 and 160.
What if in a few years, divisions are restructured so that each one is only 4 pounds whereby creating 3 new divisions between 130 and 162? Sound far-fetched? (More champions mean more sanctioning fees for the governing bodies) Imagine what 17 divisions with 5 titlists would have sounded like to people in the 1950's.Now imagine some guy comes along and wins 9 titles. How would these titles compare to Pac's total?
Pac accomplishments are impressive, but let's get some perspective. Pac has won titles that did not exist in divisions that did not exist when some of the other greats were active.
which is why his 4 lineal belts are far more impressive.
He should recieve a belt if he does the blood test till then all what he has earned is worth nothing. The bumm lost easy fights when he was clean then he juiced up came back and still he had to fight shot and weight drained fighters what a joke this cheater is.
Originally posted by Shotokan
Who cares about his paper belts,floyd mayweather comes back and beats him on the PPV sales.
Why is this idiot allowed to post? Someone pls banned him.
LOL. Floyd already fought at catch weight and cheated his opponent.....
Didn't PAC fight Cotto at 145? Isnt that what you would call a catch weight fight?
(..... I'm not asking because I dont know the answer..... I'm asking because you made an issue about fighting at a catch weight for Floyd made him a cheater.... please explain why PAC can fight at a catchweight and not be considered a cheater?)
Didn't PAC fight Cotto at 145? Isnt that what you would call a catch weight fight?
(..... I'm not asking because I dont know the answer..... I'm asking because you made an issue about fighting at a catch weight for Floyd made him a cheater.... please explain why PAC can fight at a catchweight and not be considered a cheater?)
I think the reference is that Floyd fought at a catchweight but came over 2 pounds over that catchweight. I guess he is saying Floyd cheated the scales. But, I can't speak for the TS But I think that is what he is referring to.
Whatever, that is old now. He paid his penalty so is whatever.
in the of end day belts dont mean **** its who you fight and in what time did you fight that fighter was it in his prime or on his wayout or was the fighter a bum? this is how Pac is going to be rated by boxing historians
I think it's gonna be broken in the near future I think pac started a trend and up and coming boxer would go belt hunting very soon some boxers competed in 7 divisions it did happen before now with so Manny abc belts all they have to do is pay a sanctioning fee basically
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