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  • #11
    War Cotto!!!!! laws that have ****-like tendencies are bad.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by BoxingTech718 View Post
      You are misinformed the law states that the police have the right to stop you and ask for proof of citizenship if they have su****ion of illegal status. America was founded on "legal" immigration. Not uncontrolled **** that goes on today.

      Again being an illegal is breaking the rules.
      Originally posted by freeloada View Post
      Seriously?.. please show me a example of su****ion of illegal status?.. thats racial profiling my friend no matter what way you look at it..

      "Hey that mexican guy is mowing the lawn.. I need to check his papers to see if he's legally cutting that grass... its a shame..
      freeloada, you are 100% right. the law is so vague and it will single out LEGAL citizens that may look like illegals.

      Also America wasn't founded on LEGAL immigration you dumb***. WTF do you call bringing in thousands of black ****** against their will from Africa, bringing in Chinese to carry Nitroglycerin for digging tunnels because even shaking it would make it explode killing everyone around it.

      It's very convenient how Americans are all up in arms over this "illegal" immigration but you look at the history of this country and it's full of foreigners coming here and doing the **** work to make this country great and now we want to classify these people as criminals.

      *** Arizona, *** the new law and *** anyone who supports it.

      Cotto just moved up in my book, I'm glad as a fellow Hispanic he understands the struggles we have to go through everyday and the work and what illegals contribute to this country's economy. Illegals are a NECESSITY....

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      • #13
        piece of the Mexican Constitution

        4-5, 9: Article 33: "Foreigners may not in any way participate in the political affairs of the country." (See also Article 35 listing the prerogatives of Mexican citizens.)

        5: Article 32: "In order to belong to the National Navy or the Air Force, and to discharge any office or commission, it is required to be a Mexican by birth. This same status is indispensable for captains, pilots, masters, engineers, mechanics, and in general, for all personnel of the crew of any vessel or airship protected by the Mexican merchant flag or insignia It is also necessary to be Mexican by birth to discharge the position of captain of the port and all services of pratique and airport commandant, as well as all functions of customs agent in the Republic."

        5: Article 55: "The following are the requirements to be a deputy:
        I. To be a Mexican citizen by birth, in the exercise of his rights;"

        Article 59 extends makes the requirements to be a Senator the same as a deputy, except for age. Article 82 require the President to be " Mexican citizen by birth, in the full enjoyment of his rights, and the son of Mexican parents by birth". Article 91 states that to be a secretary, you have to be a Mexican citizen by birth, too. Article 95 extends the requirement of Mexican citizenship by birth to ministers of the Supreme Court of Justice. Article 115 requires governors to be Mexican citizens by birth. Article 130 limits ministers of any religion in Mexico to Mexican citizens by birth.

        8: Article 27: "Only Mexicans by birth or naturalization and Mexican companies have the right to acquire ownership of lands, waters, and their appurtenances, or to obtain concessions for the exploitation of mines or of waters. The State may grant the same right to foreigners, provided they agree before the Ministry of Foreign Relations to consider themselves as nationals in respect to such property, and bind themselves not to invoke the protection of their governments in matters relating thereto; under penalty, in case of noncompliance with this agreement, of forfeiture of the property acquired to the Nation. Under no circumstances may foreigners acquire direct ownership of lands or waters within a zone of one hundred kilometers along the frontiers and of fifty kilometers along the shores of the country."

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        • #14
          Originally posted by freeloada View Post
          Seriously?.. please show me a example of su****ion of illegal status?.. thats racial profiling my friend no matter what way you look at it..

          "Hey that mexican guy is mowing the lawn.. I need to check his papers to see if he's legally cutting that grass... its a shame..
          Exactly bro.If there speaking spanish,Eating tacos,Listening to spanish
          music,playing soccer,Gives su****on to stop u.I know we have a problem
          with illegals here.But this is not the way to do it.Good for miguel for
          speaking his mind.

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          • #15
            Funny Mexicans seem to have stricter laws than we do ****ing hypocrites. End of discussion you have no argument now. Matter of fact just overthrow you corrupt government and allow Mexico to become a territory of the US. Then you will already be part of the US and we get your petro. Everybody wins perfect solution in my book.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by BoxingTech718 View Post
              Funny Mexicans seem to have stricter laws than we do ****ing hypocrites. End of discussion you have no argument now. Matter of fact just overthrow you corrupt government and allow Mexico to become a territory of the US. Then you will already be part of the US and we get your petro. Everybody wins perfect solution in my book.
              No Argument? Are you serious? We Are AMERICA!!! What makes us great is that we aren't like other countries.. which is the reason why people want to move here wether it be legally or illegally.. Thats what makes us great that we dont have to deal with Strict rules that other Countries have.. America was built on Immagration.. LEGAL AND ILLEGAL.. so your argument holds no water my friend.. sorry...

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              • #17
                Mexican Immigration law states:

                Only Mexicans by birth or naturalization and Mexican companies have the right to acquire ownership of lands, waters, and their appurtenances, or to obtain concessions for the exploitation of mines or of waters.[1] The Mexican government may grant this right to foreigners if they agree before the Ministry of Foreign Affairs not to invoke the protection of their own governments in any matters relating to the property they wish to buy. This is known as the Calvo Clause. This is generally done via a permit process. The 1917 Mexican constitution imposed restrictions on the purchase of land on those without Mexican citizenship. In particular, it prohibits direct ownership of real estate in what is known as the "restricted zone". This zone encompasses all land within 100 km of either Mexican land border and within 50 km of any Mexican coastline. Land 'purchases' in these areas can only be done via a mechanism called a fideicomiso, which roughly is a real estate trust, with a Mexican bank designated as the trustee and having possession of the land title. This mechanism was created to allow for foreign investment in these areas without violating the constitutional principle. The beneficiary of the trust, the foreigner, has all the rights to use, build and sell the property at its market buyer to any eligible buyer. These trusts have a term of 50 years and are renewable.[2]

                Illegal immigration has been a problem for Mexico, especially since the 1970's. In 2006 Mexico detained more than 182,000 people who entered the country illegally, mainly from nearby Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, all being Central-American countries neighboring Mexico to the south. Smaller numbers of illegal immigrants come from Ecuador, Cuba, China, South Africa, and Pakistan. [3].

                "The Law of Population" is to regulate immigration as to volume, structure, and distribution. This law was written to distribute immigrants across Mexico. [4] Immigration must be deemed appropriate, and assimilate to the national average and their proper distribution throughout the country.{article 3, section 7} Foreign nationals are restricted when the national interest so requires.{article 3, section 8} Immigration to urban population centers can be restricted to ensure effective delivery public services.{article 3, section 9} The immigration of foreigners is allowed according to their potential to contribute to national progress.{article 32} Foreigners are subject to approval concerning appropriate activities they will pursue, and the location of residence.{article 34} Immigrants must be useful elements for the country and have the income needed for subsistence and persons under their economic dependence.{article 34} Foreigners may be denied entry for the following reasons, if: No international reciprocity, The national demographic balance is altered, It is deemed harmful to the national economic interests, he/she has violated national law or have a poor record abroad, deemed not physically or mentally healthy. For a foreigner to pursue other activities in addition to those that have been expressly authorized, requires permission from the Interior Ministry.{article 37} The authorities of the Republic, whether federal, local or municipal, as well as public notaries, are obliged to check if foreigners are legally in the country.{article 72} The judicial authorities are required to notify the Interior Ministry of defendants of foreign descent who are being prosecuted, and sentencing handed down. [5]. [6] [7]

                There are three basic migratory visas for foreigners who wish to stay in Mexico. This first is a tourist visa called a FMT. For those looking to live in Mexico permanently or temporarily, There are the FM3 and the FM2. The FM3 is for those who wish to live in Mexico, but do not qualify as a long-term immigrant and are classed as no inmigrante visitante (visitor non-immigrant). There are various types of FM3 for professionals working in the country, exchange students and those living in Mexico but not working, such as retirees. The FM2 is for those classed as inmigrante rentista (longer term immigrant) and is similar to a United States Permanent Resident Card. For those carrying either of these visas, economic activities are strictly limited to those authorized by the document.[8]

                Mexicans have priority over foreigners under equality of circumstances for all classes of concessions and for all employment, positions, or commissions of the Government in which the status of citizenship is not indispensable. Foreigners can serve in the military only during wartime.[9]

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by freeloada View Post
                  No Argument? Are you serious? We Are AMERICA!!! What makes us great is that we aren't like other countries.. which is the reason why people want to move here wether it be legally or illegally.. Thats what makes us great that we dont have to deal with Strict rules that other Countries have.. America was built on Immagration.. LEGAL AND ILLEGAL.. so your argument holds no water my friend.. sorry...
                  So you're arguing for anarchy and bending the rules when they suit you then. Ok well then we should just let every criminal out of the jails then because they have families too. I'm sure most of them are "innocent". Either you follow the rules all the time or have no rules and disorder.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by freeloada View Post


                    Add Miguel Cotto to the list of those opposed to Arizona's new immigration law.

                    Cotto, the former World Boxing Organization welterweight champion, was outspoken Tuesday against Arizona's law, which makes it a crime to not carry immigration documents, while allowing police to question anyone suspected of being in the country illegally.

                    "You can't treat immigrants, people who move the economy of this country, like that," Cotto said. "They are human beings. They are here legal, but you can't treat them the way people from Arizona want to treat them."

                    Cotto, who hails from Puerto Rico, was at Modell's in Times Square to promote his new "I Fight for the Flag" shirt as part of Everlast's "What Do You Fight For?" campaign.

                    Arizona's new immigration law has been the subject of much discussion in the past month with regard to human rights. Numerous groups have protested the law, saying it can lead to racial profiling and poor treatment of **********. President Barack ***** is opposed to the law, too.

                    The World Boxing Council announced that it will not schedule bouts for any Mexican fighters in Arizona, calling the law "shameful, inhumane and discriminatory."

                    "(The law's) going to be trouble," Cotto said when asked about the law possibly presenting problems with boxers not fighting in Arizona. "People get mad to get there because people from there, the cops, the government from there, aren't going to treat them like they need to be treated."

                    Cotto will fight undefeated World Boxing Association junior middleweight champion Yuri Foreman on Saturday night in the first fight at the new Yankee Stadium. Cotto, 29, said it will be an honor to be at the Stadium and be a part of its history.

                    "When I talk about my flag, I'm proud of my people from Puerto Rico," Cotto said. "I feel pretty proud to be Puerto Rican and for me to represent them for example next Saturday and make them feel proud and happy when I get the victory over Yuri Foreman."
                    More power to Cotto. Nice standing Cotto... All guts as usual.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by BoxingTech718 View Post
                      Funny Mexicans seem to have stricter laws than we do ****ing hypocrites. End of discussion you have no argument now. Matter of fact just overthrow you corrupt government and allow Mexico to become a territory of the US. Then you will already be part of the US and we get your petro. Everybody wins perfect solution in my book.
                      Come on bro,Just because mexico and other countries treat there
                      immigrates like ****,Doesnt mean we should follow.This is whats great
                      about USA,Where not like other countries.This law is causing tension
                      between hispanics and white americans.

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