Miguel Cotto, against Arizona immigration law

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  • chinoy
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    #111
    Im a fan of Cotto but i disagree with his stand on immigration.....

    The federal government REQUIRES legal immigrants (green card holders) to carry the green card AT ALL TIMES for proper identification. This law issued by the USCIS (US Citizenship and Immigration Services) is rarely enforced by the federal government as USCIS agents (aside from Border Patrol agents) are spread too thin and are mostly found on border towns. What Arizona did is make a law to enforce it in their state deputizing state police to ENFORCE an existing Federal law.

    This is the United States of America and there is nothing wrong with enforcing an existing law. Im not white but i do not mind being asked by state police for my documents if they deem it necessary if they think i broke the law by being undocumented

    Hispanic/Asian americans must put their loyalty with America FIRST, then mexico/china/india/dominican republic/philippines SECOND......

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    • freeloada
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      #112
      Originally posted by chinoy
      Im a fan of Cotto but i disagree with his stand on immigration.....

      The federal government REQUIRES legal immigrants (green card holders) to carry the green card AT ALL TIMES for proper identification. This law issued by the USCIS (US Citizenship and Immigration Services) is rarely enforced by the federal government as USCIS agents (aside from Border Patrol agents) are spread too thin and are mostly found on border towns. What Arizona did is make a law to enforce it in their state deputizing state police to ENFORCE an existing Federal law.

      This is the United States of America and there is nothing wrong with enforcing an existing law. Im not white but i do not mind being asked by state police for my documents if they deem it necessary if they think i broke the law by being undocumented

      Hispanic/Asian americans must put their loyalty with America FIRST, then mexico/china/india/dominican republic/philippines SECOND......

      I agree... to a point.. but where is the line that you draw?.. How is there a example of su****ion of illegal status? i still don't get that.. that in my book is discrimination no matter which way you slice it.. I agree numerous times on this thread that illegal immigration is wrong.. but so is discrimination... How can anyone possibly tell if you're not a legal resident? wheres the justifiable cause?? I need a reason for a example of su****ion of illegal status yet no one has given me one..

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      • xcaret v3
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        #113
        Originally posted by BoxingTech718
        You are misinformed the law states that the police have the right to stop you and ask for proof of citizenship if they have su****ion of illegal status. America was founded on "legal" immigration. Not uncontrolled **** that goes on today.

        Again being an illegal is breaking the rules.
        wtf are you talking about? so christopher columbus came here with a passport and said "hey indians, we gonna kill you to make this a white land".. your a ***en moron.. stfu.

        Originally posted by -DesertStorm-
        Have you even read the bill?


        Reasonable su****ion will be if for example someone runs a red light, the police officer stops that person and like they are required they ask for ID or DL. Once they fail to provide that then that is a reason to ask for additional documents and well if they don't have them they go from there. A state issued ID or DL is enough to prove you are a legal citizen, if you are a legal citizen why would you not have one?
        lmfao, you seriously believe that they are gonna be friendly like that? "hey amigo can i see your ID"? HAHAH... ****** coconut, and do you think they are gonna be asking a white man for his papers in case he forgot his wallet with id at home?... if u think there isnt any racial profiling then what do you got to say to the puerto rican guy that was held up for 3 ***en days because they thought his papers were fake? he was nearly deported to mexico, a country he never stepped on or is familiar with just because he "looked" mexican, shoot yourself.
        Last edited by xcaret v3; 06-02-2010, 10:30 PM.

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          #114
          Originally posted by freeloada
          I agree... to a point.. but where is the line that you draw?.. How is there a example of su****ion of illegal status? i still don't get that.. that in my book is discrimination no matter which way you slice it.. I agree numerous times on this thread that illegal immigration is wrong.. but so is discrimination... How can anyone possibly tell if you're not a legal resident? wheres the justifiable cause?? I need a reason for a example of su****ion of illegal status yet no one has given me one..
          Check post# 111, I already gave you an example

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          • Puya
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            #115
            You have to love this guy's opinion

            Bill Maher for President

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            • ChiTown2Diego
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              #116
              Originally posted by BoxingTech718
              Of course he doesn't want to offend his ppv purchasing latino fan base. In any other country in the world you have to walk around with your passport if you're not a native. You want to know what the penalty is for being in Mexico illegally? 2 years jail, go figures but America is the bad guy.
              Correct. I'm a big Cotto fan so I'll forgive his ignorance on this issue. Same goes for Benavidez.

              Originally posted by freeloada
              I dont think its that man.. I honestly think its more of bieng discrimination.. Its basically giving people power to question your ethnicity.. How about if they went up to blacks and said are you from Africa? Or white and say are you from England?.. I think its pretty ****ed up considering that America was founded on by immagration.. but thats just my opinion...
              It's not discrimination and bad comparison. If you're illegal you're illegal. We're way too lenient...

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              • ChiTown2Diego
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                #117
                Originally posted by Puya
                You have to love this guy's opinion

                Bill Maher for President
                This guy is a fkn idiot. Bill Maher for president??? Fk dude, you're prob one of the idiots that voted forBama

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                • Puya
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by Puya
                  You have to love this guy's opinion

                  Bill Maher for President

                  Originally posted by ChiTown2Diego
                  This guy is a fkn idiot. Bill Maher for president??? Fk dude, you're prob one of the idiots that voted forBama
                  Did you watch the video?? What do you think???

                  I'm from PR and don't need Papers to go to the US just my Drivers license from PR or Passport if I don't have any of my IDs with me like any other American.

                  Who would you had vote for ? People vote for the one who might do a better job. But I don't vote I hate politicians the same way I hate Lawyers LOL. The all make the world worst
                  Last edited by Puya; 06-03-2010, 12:00 AM.

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                  • Boxingholic
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by freeloada
                    They are here legal, but you can't treat them the way people from Arizona want to treat them."
                    I stop reading after this part, just curious what grade level did Cotto finish? Isnt word "illegal" means not allowed, against the law, breaking law, crime?

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                    • freeloada
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by Boxingholic
                      I stop reading after this part, just curious what grade level did Cotto finish? Isnt word "illegal" means not allowed, against the law, breaking law, crime?
                      Dude... please stop bieng ignorant.. Everyone knows Cotto just learned english a couple years ago.. He still has trouble speaking the language. But at least he attempts to learn...




                      As for desert storm....


                      Reasonable su****ion will be if for example someone runs a red light, the police officer stops that person and like they are required they ask for ID or DL. Once they fail to provide that then that is a reason to ask for additional documents and well if they don't have them they go from there. A state issued ID or DL is enough to prove you are a legal citizen, if you are a legal citizen why would you not have one?


                      This is not reasonable su****ion.. this is running a red light and breaking the law.. If you're driving without lisence and registration and insurance you're wrong.. therefor you deserve all the punishment you get..

                      Now lets say a hispanic was driving and had no papers.. Cop pulls him over asks for papers and proof of citizenship correct?.. Would that same cop ask a white man for his proof of citizenship if he has no lisence or registration like you say?..

                      I see that as discrimination.. Unless its garunteed that all people no matter what color or race will be asked for proof of citizenship then i will stick by my guns and still believe that THIS IS DISCRIMINATION... regardless of how you slice it my friends..

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