~Floyd and Manny Pacquiao: FOTD Year by Year~

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  • TriggerItch
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    #11
    2000 should be floyd, i'll edit that

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    • B.U.R.N.E.R
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      #12
      Originally posted by TriGaFinGa
      2000 should be floyd, i'll edit that
      Its all good. I think when you really think about it Judah and Baldi were better then a past it Morales twice.

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        #13
        Those that picked Pacquiao for fighter of the decade do not know how to distinguish a year from a decade plain and simple.

        It's simply laughable to say that he has been dominatating for the past decade.

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          #14
          Originally posted by FeFist
          Those that picked Pacquiao for fighter of the decade do not know how to distinguish a year from a decade plain and simple.

          It's simply laughable to say that he has been dominating for the past decade.
          This is so true and if you notice they wont touch this thread.

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            #15
            Originally posted by No Ceilings
            For each 2000-2009

            Who "won" that year in your eyes.

            This would make for a good thread. I go like this:

            2000- Floyd
            2001- Floyd
            2002- Floyd

            2003- Pac
            2004- Floyd
            2005- Floyd
            2006- Floyd
            2007- Floyd

            2008- Pac
            2009-Pac




            In 2004: Floyd beat Chop Chop. Pac had a draw with JMM and beat 3K.

            2005: I gave 05 to Floyd because Manny lost a fight.

            2006: Floyd beat Judah and Baldomir 2 out of 3 of the Top WW's and won the 147 Lineal Title. In that same year Pac beat a shot Morales twice and beat Oscar Larios.

            Year by year its interesting.
            2000 - Floyd
            2001- Floyd
            2002- Floyd
            2003- Pac
            2004- Pac
            2005- Pac
            2006- Pac
            2007- Floyd
            2008- Pac
            2009-Pac

            2001 and 2002 are Floyd's dominant years in terms of competition. You may want to add 2007 as well. But I consider 2007 more of a year when Floyd burst out in the mainstream which also makes it his most profitable year.

            2003 is definitely for Pac. It was the year he got his status as one of the sport's rising stars after an upset win over then P4P#3 Barrera.

            Floyd had only one fight in 2004 so you cant give that year for him. Pac fought a prime JMM to a draw in what consider to be a contender for fight of the year. It certainly trumphs his win over a good Corley, who in my opinion is nothing more than a tune-up. Pac also had a tune-up against Fahsan so that already offsets Floyd's win against Chop Chop.

            If you gave 2005 to Floyd, I wouldn't object although you have to consider that Pac was also in a FOTY against Morales even though he lost. But if you put more weight on Floyd's win against Gatti over Pac's loss in a FOTY against Morales then its reasonable as well.

            Giving 2006 to Floyd is just ******ed since Pac was fighter of the year (BWAA and Ring) in 2006 with his two victories against Morales. Most boxing writers were already even considering in moving him up to P4P#1 status in that time due to Floyd's recent competition in 2005 and 2006, where people perceived that it was the time he started cherry picking his opponents.

            2007 - this year definitely belongs to Floyd

            2008/2009 - Floyd retired and inactive so you have to give that to Pac. It is also the year when Pac burst out in the mainstream, and his most profitable years.
            Last edited by mikemurni; 06-01-2010, 08:35 AM.

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              #16
              For the last time...(my breakdown won't matter even)

              Floyd retired for 2 years, if he didn't retire, he would've gotten the award.


              It's funny people forgot that bit.

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                #17
                Originally posted by mikemurni
                2001- Floyd
                2002- Floyd
                2003- Pac
                2004- Pac
                2005- Pac
                2006- Pac
                2007- Floyd
                2008- Pac
                2009-Pac

                2001 and 2002 are Floyd's dominant years in terms of competition. You may want to add 2007 as well. But I consider 2007 more of a year when Floyd burst out in the mainstream which also makes it his most profitable year.

                2003 is definitely for Pac. It was the year he got his status as one of the sport's rising stars after an upset win over then P4P#3 Barrera.

                Floyd had only one fight in 2004 so you cant give that year for him. Pac fought a prime JMM to a draw in what consider to be a contender for fight of the year. It certainly trumphs his win over a good Corley, who in my opinion is nothing more than a tune-up. Pac also had a tune-up against Fahsan so that already offsets Floyd's win against Chop Chop.

                If you gave 2005 to Floyd, I wouldn't object although you have to consider that Pac was also in a FOTY against Morales even though he lost. But if you put more weight on Floyd's win against Gatti over Pac's loss in a FOTY against Morales then its reasonable as well.

                Giving 2006 to Floyd is just ******ed since Pac won the FOTY in that year with his two victories against Morales. Most boxing writers were already even considering in moving him up to P4P#1 status in that time due to Floyd's recent competition in 2005 and 2006, where people perceived that it was the time he started cherry picking his opponents.

                2007 - this year definitely belongs to Floyd

                2008/2009 - Floyd retired and inactive so you have to give that to Pac. It is also the year when Pac burst out in the mainstream, and his most profitable years.

                So the best is you have a 5-5 draw or at most a 6-4 win for Pacquiao.
                In 2004 he still didnt win a fight though.

                2006 has to go to Floyd. Morales was shot in both fights bro.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by No Ceilings
                  In 2004 he still didnt win a fight though.

                  2006 has to go to Floyd. Morales was shot in both fights bro.
                  Pac had a win over Fahsan, which offset Floyd's win over Chop Chop. Both were tuneups. So if you consider that Pac fought one more (against JMM) then you have to give it to Pac.

                  In 2006 was Pac fighter of the year (Ring and BWAA) so how can you give that to Floyd.
                  Last edited by mikemurni; 06-01-2010, 08:36 AM.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by dans
                    Manny is fresh in everyone's minds for the DLH beatdown, Hatton destruction, and Cotto dismantling. Taken year by year, there's no doubt Mayweather's dominance was more profound throughout the decade.

                    But in the world of "what have you done for me lately?"....


                    exactly......boxing has the ultimate "what have you done for me lately" mentality.........i would also argue Floyd is has been held to a higher expectation than other fighters in the sport for quite some time now.........

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Tamis_Siensya
                      For the last time...(my breakdown won't matter even)

                      Floyd retired for 2 years, if he didn't retire, he would've gotten the award.


                      It's funny people forgot that bit.
                      It's not that people forget about that, it's just that in terms of establishing themselves in the ring, Floyd had 3 years on Pacquiao.

                      The performances in the fights is also something people overlook. With Floyd he struggled once in the past 10 years against Castillo, other than that he has literally dominated his opponents. He has essentially been in a league of his own since his 130lb days.

                      Pacquiao has only been at that level of dominance for 2 years.

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