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  • #21
    Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
    Its amazing how Floyd's workrate has reduced since 130 lbs. I mean floyd used to be a monster, but now he throws way below the WW average. He's so inactive in the ring that volume punchers like pwill can beat him.

    just go back to the diego corrales (R.I.P.) fight. he was throwing tons of punches from all kinds of angles. Eventually he stopped diego.

    now look at the dlh fight. floyd barely threw any punches at all and the fight went to a split decision. if floyd just let his hands go more, he would've won by a wider margin.

    Its sad to see such a great boxer reduce his workrate and become a boring boxer. Floyd was at his best at 130 lbs. He was a spectacular boxer then. At 130 lbs, without reducing his punch output, he could've stopped JMM.

    Floyd needs to get his punch stats up. that's a glaring whole in his game.

    You should get the award for HATER OF THE DECADE. All you do is create negative threads about boxers that you don't like. You have to be the most annoying poster on NSB.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by AllEyesOpen View Post
      Is Mayweather more accurate now then at the lower weightclasses? & is it by much? I never really looked into it.
      Sorry sir never really looked into it too LOL!

      All I say is if people are wondering why suddenly Floyd's workrate is down since his ascend to the higher weight classes is because he mastered the ring to his advantage and no one has yet to cut the ring efficiently to catch Floyd where they want him to be.

      And probably brittle hands perhaps.

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      • #23
        The thing is, he doesn't throw as many punches but he lands just as many. The problem is that he has the body of a 40 year old man right now. He's had all kinds of problems with his back, shoulders, hands, etc. If you combined his physical prime (130-140 days) with his mental prime (right now), you'd have a monster. Mosley and JMM would both have tasted the canvas for the 10 count for the first time in their life (or most likely the ref would step in).

        As for P.Will, its not like P.Will is throwing thousands of punches and landing 400. The thing about Floyd is that he never folds under presure, and if he can keep landing flush on Williams and make him respect him, then Williams start boxing, which would make it very easy fight for Floyd. That's the thing about Williams. If he respects your abilities, he'll be more cautious. But if he doesn't respect you (for example, the Martinez fight), he'll run through your punches and keep swinging.
        Last edited by BoxerDood; 05-31-2010, 12:36 PM.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Tamis_Siensya View Post
          Sorry sir never really looked into it too LOL!

          All I say is if people are wondering why suddenly Floyd's workrate is down since his ascend to the higher weight classes is because he mastered the ring to his advantage and no one has yet to cut the ring efficiently to catch Floyd where they want him to be.

          And probably brittle hands perhaps.
          I agree with you 100%, fact is he doesn't need to throw more punches, and if that's not ring generalship i don't know what is.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by AllEyesOpen View Post
            I agree with you 100%, fact is he doesn't need to throw more punches, and if that's not ring generalship i don't know what is.
            Yup!

            People failed to realize that Floyd has that. They can't see beyond the hate LOL!

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            • #26
              Did that other thread piss you off that much?

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              • #27
                Originally posted by BoxerDood View Post
                The thing is, he doesn't throw as many punches but he lands just as many. The problem is that he has the body of a 40 year old man right now. He's had all kinds of problems with his back, shoulders, hands, etc. If you combined his physical prime (130-140 days) with his mental prime (right now), you'd have a monster. Mosley and JMM would both have tasted the canvas for the 10 count for the first time in their life (or most likely the ref would step in).

                As for P.Will, its not like P.Will is throwing thousands of punches and landing 400. The thing about Floyd is that he never folds under presure, and if he can keep landing flush on Williams and make him respect him, then Williams start boxing, which would make it very easy fight for Floyd. That's the thing about Williams. If he respects your abilities, he'll be more cautious. But if he doesn't respect you (for example, the Martinez fight), he'll run through your punches and keep swinging.

                Williams also faced some good counter punchers such as Winky and some who had power. Williams seems to take a punch well and carries thru no matter what. Floyd has some power but it may not be enough to slow down someone such as Williams. Also, I believe Williams already faced guys with more power than Floyd so he will be used to it unlike some of Floyd's bloated lightweight opponents.

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                • #28
                  it is like Michael Jordan when he was older and couldn't do all the flashy Dunks anymore, he changed his game and became a dominating post up player and a mid range jump shooter, that is what great athletes do they can make those adjustments as they get older and start to slow down

                  Mayweather is more cerebral now, he doesn't have to kill you work "Workrate" he can pick you apart with accuracy

                  haven't been on this board long but this guy seems to be Obsessed with hating on Mayweather

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post

                    yep. I mean its strange how floyd retired exactly when he should've fought margo, cotto, and mosley. instead he waited for them all to bash each other's brains out, and then he made his comeback.

                    strange indeed.
                    Don't you get tired about repeating the same over & over...didn't you said SSM was going to KO him out...that he was going to find an excuse to cancel and not fight SSM...

                    PBF workrate is down because he gets minimum risk and he doesn't need to...less openings for the oponent...hence the most accurate puncher with fewer percentage landed against him...

                    When are you going to give credit to the man?, no even after he beat SSM?, after he beats PAC?, jeeeez.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post

                      yep. I mean its strange how floyd retired exactly when he should've fought margo, cotto, and mosley. instead he waited for them all to bash each other's brains out, and then he made his comeback.

                      strange indeed.
                      Sorry, but why in the World FIGHT if you're not 100 % commited. It takes such a determination to go to the gym that many times a day. Why risk anything, if you know that you're not 100 %. Who wouldn't do whatever they could to beat the p4p number one?
                      He'd risk his name and health - not worth it, just to give the fans what they want.

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