I HATE Julio Chavez

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IDK, I think if you talk about just pure boxing skill, I would say yes or maybe. Those people in this thread and in boxing in general that say Chavez was just a brawler are idiots who don't watch boxing, that's obvious. I do think that when you talk about just pure boxing ability, I don't think it's that far off to say Oscar had better skills.

He was definitely faster than Chavez, had a better jab and better natural attributes. He was longer, taller and was more refined from having over 300 amateur fights.

It doesn't mean he's the better fighter, there were things Chavez had that can't be beat. Like an iron chin, incredible body work, precise punching and a very underrated defense. He also had a serious mean streak that made him more determined than the terminator in seeking you out and destroying you.

So he had a better jab and was faster. Can't really say he was a better boxer. Chavez was the better ring general, better bodypuncher, better stamina, as powerful, better chin and did it against better opposition. In terms of skills, Chavez is a couple steps better. In terms of resume it's not even close.

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He is an ATG,. The Greatest fighter to come out of Mexico. And, in the top 3 greatest Latino fighter of all time. 3 divisional champion, first ballot HOF'er. Oscar dreams he was ever HALF as great as JCC was.

Lol damn Jro this thread isn't even about Oscar. I know you told me you hate him but come on bro.

[solo20]

Gtfoh. The way Steele robbed my boy Taylor had me fuming, but JCC deserves mad respect. I hate people who say they refuse to respect a fighter that is a ****ing ATG ue to their attitude. Well **** that, I'm not a girl looking for a person with personality, all I care about is what they do in the ring.

bull **** Steele made the right call you cant answer yes you lose the f**ken macth doesnt matter how much time there is left

[-Spinal-]

I love you Check but this is madness.

I am not a JCC hater, and i'm not an Oscar stan or anything like that, just to make it clear Juan Manuel Marquez is my favorite fighter coming out of Mexico. With that said I believe as well that DLH was more skilled than JCC in their prime. There were few boxers who were better than JCC at body punching and inside work. But I would be blind to say prime JC was a more all-around fighter than DLH. De La Hoya was the better and more skilled boxer.


Maybe lot will disagree but I guess I should end this by saying "in my humble opinion".

['Sugar' Freddi]

I don't understand why people still cry about that Tayler fight. There are no favors in boxing like you guys make it sound. Why should've Steele let Tayler continue when he couldn't answer "Yes" or "No" if he wants to continue. Yes, Chavez was losing the fight in a way I guess but looking at the damage that was done, it doesn't look like Chavez lost. Plus, that's the point of this sport - anything can happen. You lose the whole fight, one punch changes it all at the end. Just the way the sport is. No damn favors in a sport like boxing or any other sports for that matter. Chavez knocked Tayler out and that's it.

"Skill wise, he [Chavez] was the best you'll ever see." Roy Jones Jr.

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I am not a JCC hater, and i'm not an Oscar stan or anything like that, just to make it clear Juan Manuel Marquez is my favorite fighter coming out of Mexico. With that said I believe as well that DLH was more skilled than JCC in their prime. There were few boxers who were better than JCC at body punching and inside work. But I would be blind to say prime JC was a more all-around fighter than DLH. De La Hoya was the better and more skilled boxer.


Maybe lot will disagree but I guess I should end this by saying "in my humble opinion".

I can't think of something Oscar did better than Julio besides jab. Seriously. Maybe I'm forgetting something tho..

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I don't exactly care about a fighters attitude but I lose mad respect for an athlete when I find out they do lines of coke whilst they're still involved in the sport.

True, but that was his lifestyle I guess. He's not the only fighter/athlete that has done it. Whitaker did it as well as that other guy I think his last name's Tapia. It's a popular thing to do when you hit celebrity status I guess?

But with that said, I think that's very disrespectful to your sport/team/and young fans who look up to you and have to see what you're doing in the news.

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I can't think of something Oscar did better than Julio besides jab. Seriously. Maybe I'm forgetting something tho..

Better jab, faster handspeed, same iron chins in their primes, Oscar had slightly better footwork and blocked a hell of a lot of punches(without using his face), so I would say Oscar had the better defense as well.

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Better jab, faster handspeed, same iron chins in their primes, Oscar had slightly better footwork and blocked a hell of a lot of punches(without using his face), so I would say Oscar had the better defense as well.

Chavez had the better chin, I think. Save for the Randall KD, I think only Tszyu managed to drop him and that was, what, his last fight? I don't know if Oscar had better defense...at all. Ike tagged him up pretty good, so did Mosley, so did Oba Carr...heck, Derrell Coley had him hurt! Matter of fact, save for the Tito fight, I can't think of a fight where Oscar exhibited good defense. Chavez was very adept at slipping and rolling, particularly on the inside. Better jab? Definitely. Maybe footwork although that's debatable.

[Mr. Fantastic]

Give Oscar credit for what? Beating a shell of JCC? I don't give Oscar credit for that ****. **** Oscar and then he gave an old man who clearly beat a rematch. But, wouldn't give Quartey and Whitaker a rematch. And, Oscar deserves credit? **** that....

Prime for Prime at 130-140 JCC>Oscar.

But yet you give Pac credit for doing the same with Morales, Cotto, Barrera, and many more??