Is Shane Mosley an ATG?

[MARKBNLV]

No. HoF but not ATG. Unable to overcome any of the obstacles he ran into (Forrest and Wright). Perhaps if he had stayed at 135-140 for the majority of his career and fought big names there.

i agree.................

[BoxerDood]

No. HoF but not ATG. Unable to overcome any of the obstacles he ran into (Forrest and Wright). Perhaps if he had stayed at 135-140 for the majority of his career and fought big names there.

Forrest was way too big for WW, and Winky was a big JMW too (not to mention Shane was never at his best when he fought at 154). A prime Mosley would have given guys like Aaron Pryor, Sugar Ray Leonard and Julio Cesar Chavez hell in my opinion.

[BritishBoxing92]

What do you think?

yep...

beated

Delahoya X2
Vargas X2
Mayorga
Margarito
Collazo

3 weight world champion

[Miburo]

yep...

beated

Delahoya X2
Vargas X2
Mayorga
Margarito
Collazo

3 weight world champion

This constitutes ATG? Two of those weight titles were against DLH, one controversially. Also he was losing to Mayorga on my card until the final round stoppage (although I didn't have him losing to Cotto either - had it a draw or Mosley by 1 if I recall). Margarito is what made him HoF worthy, but I find ATG status ridiculous. Mosley's skills are greatly overestimated - speed and power, not skill, are what made him successful. What could have been had he never gone higher then, let's say, 140, is anyone's speculation. Forrest being "way too big" for WW is meaningless - he made the weight limit and never fought above 154. Both times Mosley won championships beyond 135 he immediately encountered opponents he could not conquer.

[Miburo]

Forrest was way too big for WW, and Winky was a big JMW too (not to mention Shane was never at his best when he fought at 154). A prime Mosley would have given guys like Aaron Pryor, Sugar Ray Leonard and Julio Cesar Chavez hell in my opinion.

Pryor and Chavez perhaps. Leonard would destroy him, either simply by outboxing him or even taking it into a war where his superior skills would win out.

[BritishBoxing92]

This constitutes ATG? Two of those weight titles were against DLH, one controversially. Also he was losing to Mayorga on my card until the final round stoppage (although I didn't have him losing to Cotto either - had it a draw or Mosley by 1 if I recall). Margarito is what made him HoF worthy, but I find ATG status ridiculous. Mosley's skills are greatly overestimated - speed and power, not skill, are what made him successful. What could have been had he never gone higher then, let's say, 140, is anyone's speculation. Forrest being "way too big" for WW is meaningless - he made the weight limit and never fought above 154. Both times Mosley won championships beyond 135 he immediately encountered opponents he could not conquer.

still beated mayorga and de la hoya.... still Stopped the guy who handed miguel cotto his 1st pro defeat...still beated fernando vargas ....still won 3 weight world champion...maybe he will go into the HOF or maybe not..

[Canadian Kid]

do bears **** in the woods

[MARKBNLV]

yep...

beated

Delahoya X2
Vargas X2
Mayorga
Margarito
Collazo

3 weight world champion

in my opinion dlh is the only fighter you listed that is a hofer.

[Miburo]

in my opinion dlh is the only fighter you listed that is a hofer.

Exactly - Mosley's defining moment was moving up two weights to legitimately beat DLH for the welterweight crown after having faced years of questionable opposition. He went into that fight a question mark and came out a champion.

[FightMoney]

He is an all time great if not for anything but the type of work he put in at 135 - 140